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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:32 am 
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Hey guys,

I was just wondering if you can help me. I have outlined that I believe in the game and I know how to get over my AA (by doing the Newbie Mission). I was just wondering if there are good ways to open up larger sets, let's say 4-sets (because I saw a really nice one when I was out tonight but I didn't go for it due to AA). For smaller sets, I have an idea thanks to a post made by BennyB for single sets.

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Look brotha, you already took the first step by realizing that if your going break out of the AFC role your going to have to do it by yourself and for yourself.

Now, REALIZE the first time u go out to sarge your gonna make a fool of yourself. Just learn to laugh at yourself aftewards and break down what you did right and what you did wrong and learn from it.

If your going to go to a mall or a park and try sarging, First walk around a bit and just smile at a Few HB8+ just to get the nerves down and confidence up. Next, when you find a HB you want to sarge go up to them and say something like
"nice shoe's, but i think they would look better in green, have you seem them?"
If you do this right she'll be at her hooking point then suggest to get a smoothie or coffee to isolate her, and work on est. a connection. Game her for a little until you feel like you can number close and say
"This was nice when you gonna take me out again lol" she should ask for your number then leave.

Try this scenerio and see if it works for you.

Good luck Rap


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I sarge today alone! I went to the park, it was mad sunny, beautiful day, and a lot of hot chicks walking around. It took a very very long time, at least an hour of anxiously walking around before I approached my first one. I did at least 25 approaches and half of those answered my opener.

But anyway, when I was just ready to go home I saw a five set with 8 HBs walking infront of me. I quickly approached them, one stopped to hear my question but the others just kept on walking. But I was rejected badly... ouch. When I tried opening them I didn't even think about it, I said to my self, "Here I go!" So just as all of you said to me, just do it. Don't wait.

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I hate to interrupt this with something slightly off-topic, but Rap have you tried the common? It's amazing for this kind of thing since it's completely packed full of women who are just out to enjoy the weather.

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Hm, that's interesting Rap. Iunno, I think the biggest thing I have with sarging is rejection. Iunno, it's a feeling that is never nice. Rap, did it really matter afterwards?


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I sarge today alone! I went to the park, it was mad sunny, beautiful day, and a lot of hot chicks walking around. It took a very very long time, at least an hour of anxiously walking around before I approached my first one. I did at least 25 approaches and half of those answered my opener.

But anyway, when I was just ready to go home I saw a five set with 8 HBs walking infront of me. I quickly approached them, one stopped to hear my question but the others just kept on walking. But I was rejected badly... ouch. When I tried opening them I didn't even think about it, I said to my self, "Here I go!" So just as all of you said to me, just do it. Don't wait.

And what are yours Approach openers? :)

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all I did that day was asked the only opener I could think of, which was "Which do you think lies more? guys or girls?"

Any openers good on the street?

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Well, openers on the street are hard. What I learned from The show The Pick Up Artist, was that moving targets are hard to stop. It's basic physics.


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Hey Rap and Rant!

I really think I can help both of you. I got over my AA by doing the noobie quest, and it led me to my universal opener. You should give it a try.

Me: (smiling, eye contact, positioning my body with confidence) Hi.

Her: Hi!

Me: How's it going?

Her: pretty good. (or if you're lucky you get: BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH)

Me: (15 seconds should have passed, she is realizing I am confident and fun, I have had ample time to think of something to say about her shirt, or the bar were at, or the weather, or the guy stumbling around drunk.)

For me, the topic of conversation is pretty irrelevant. Just talk about bullshit untill you find something shes passionate about.

Guys you have to be normal people! Asking weird questions like "who lies more" etc. is unnatural and unattractive to girls. Improvise! If she has a southern accent ask if she likes (insert country artist). Good luck! Just be sure to be confident in your body language, verbal language, and eye contact and you will be fine!!!!!


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ALSO: approaching large sets with HB8+s without PUA wingmen is a very tough task. Approaching lone wolves is much more easy and natural!


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well I know that is a very different question. That's why it's better to do it with a wingman, but at the same time I know I can open because I've done it before and I think I'm pretty confident. I just can't get out of this momentum I'm having right now. Oh I'm doing the Style Life Challenge by Neil Strauss. I'm on day 5 and 6. I can't do it natural yet... i'm still beginning. Okay, what would you recommend to open with to an HB and it is a cold approach?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:22 am 
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Rap-

Refer to my first post in this thread. I guess I'll restate it though.

You. Hi. (or Hello works just fine)

Her: Hi

You: Hows it going? (very honestly and confidently)

Her: (doesn't matter)

You: (just create conversation as if you were talking to an old friend)

It's that simple to start conversation and progress, man. All these canned material guys are making you over-think things. If the conversation REALLY comes to a halt and gets akward, it is ALWAYS perfectly acceptable to say:

"It was nice meeting you, (HB's name). Have a nice day." (shake hand, smile, and walk away.)


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Karma, I think your approach more works for a person who is a natural and is already good at talking... I think alot of people who have AA wouldn't work well with that approach... therefore, that is why canned lines are created it for beginners, very few or if any real pua's use canned lines... so getting back to answering the question your approach shouldn't be who lies more women or men.. a) because that line is very famous due to the shows and oprah, dr phill, ie who doesn't know that line... b) because it is weird it is just like that those dudes with that stupid ass baby in a corner line... your approaches should be simple, worthy, and unique... usually I will scan the girl I am going to approach find some unique or different about her, or even that use the enviroment.. but if u must used canned lines people use the more natural ones... such as general opinions...


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