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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:42 pm 
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So here is my opener that I used today. First, I was in my college cafeteria and saw a girl sitting by herself. So i walked up and said "excuse me,can i get your opinion?" she said sure so i said "what do you think of guys wearing pink shirts? because i'm in a band and my sister said my pink shirt would make me look gay" so she and i started talking, first about the pink shirt, then about styles of music and it turned out that my band has actually played with a lot of the bands she likes. I sat down across from her and we talked for about 5 minutes. Bear in mind that this was my first ever approach! Suddenly i see her look up and its her boyfriend. i was sitting in his seat. so i apologized and let him sit down, then asked his opinion. that way it didn't seem like i was just hitting on his girlfriend. it turned out that he had actually heard of my band and i turned it into a thing promoting my band. so he basically had no idea i was opening on his girl. all of this was said with a shit ton of confidence, smiles, etc.

next, i tried it on another girl. it worked alright but she said pink wouldn't look gay or whatever and i ran out of things to talk about with her. i had a wing man sit a few tables away from her, that way when i ran out of things to talk about i was like "oh mike, there you are!" so i didn't get rejected or whatever. any tips on how i could have either a) #closed or b) kept it going?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:14 pm 
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Not bad for your first approach. You got in with the opener. You managed to stay in the situation even though her boyfriend was there. Were you just practicing with anyone to get or was she an actual target?

The thing I see wrong is something I use to do as well. Don't ask if you can get her opinion and then wait for her reply. What if she had said no when you asked? What would your reaction be. Obviously if you have had some experience you would have a response in case she says no, but given that you said it is your first opener, it could have gone either way.
BE in control of the conversation. It seems like you have the confidence and everything but you can take that further...

You: Excuse me, but I need a woman's opinion. (You are not asking for her opinion.)

(Pause just long enough for her to catch her breath then proceed)

You: What do you think of guys wearing pink shirts? because i'm in a band and my sister said my pink shirt would make me look gay...

ME: Haha blah blah blah yahkitee shmackitee

The other thing is....It is polite to let the boyfriend sit down, however that is DLV. You definitely should NOT have apologized too. If you sat there but acknowledged his presence and then proceeded to ignore the target and befriend the BF you are not only DHV, but you remain the prize. If you can control the conversation you isolate the target then every now and then you can include her. I guarantee if you can win over the boyfriend, you can hit on her as much you want and he won't even know. Of course that may not be your intention, but try it some time.

As for number closing and running out of things to talk...Do a search on ABC's and you will find a post on word association through the alphabet i posted somewhere??. A is for animals, actors, K is kissing, S sports, sex or spicy food etc... You can make up your own. Think of one word and say a sentence. Start talking about that word for example animals.

Animals

You: You like animals? (Again don't let her answer) Of course you do everyone does. Anyway if you were animal what would you be? You can tell a lot about a person by what kind of animal they think they would be...

Her: Haha I dunno...

You: I'd be a bear. Those things are freaken gnarly!

Her: HAha yeah they are... I would be some type of bird.

You: Why?

Her: You know cause you can fly

You: Yeah right you just want shit on people(Make sure you say this cocky-funny if, you do she should laugh)

Her: Haha

You: See I told you can tell a lot about people! Anyway, birds are pretty cool I guess. I saw a couple of cool ones when I was in (insert place here) That was an awsome time.

Animals + Vacation or Places or Traveling = New topic
Bam transition to another place another time another topic.

It is good that you went to your wing man but you should do it at point of strength, when you have had good or even during the climax of a conversation. Time constraint is key, keep that in mind. It ensures her that you are not needy and that you have social proof(your friends).

Good job man keep it up.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:49 pm 
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Dude, you are right on the money. I should be more in control. These past two approaches were just so I can kind of familiarize myself with what would work, what wouldn't, etc. These two girls were probably both HB7's. But thanks a lot for the tips. I'll be posting my progress as I continue.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:58 am 
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yeah I'm down for the pink shirt opinion opener...I got way too many of em in my closet not to be. Good one.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:28 pm 
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don't apologise to the bf, instead, get a chair for him, so he's joining YOU. not the other way around. Shake his hand firmly, and clasp his hand with your left hand whilst shaking with your right - this shows dominant behaviour.
nice one though


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:00 pm 
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I got drunk at the Cowboys game last night and bought my little China girl a pink Dallas Cowboys ball cap. Decided to buy one for myself. They had a bar set up in a large tent afterwards with a live band. I wore my new pink hat and had my "pre-selection" with me. The women were drooling over me. I will sarge alone and try this hat to see how it works. If a woman wants to open, they have the perfect opener...all they have to do is ask me if I'm gay.

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I got drunk at the Cowboys game last night and bought my little China girl a pink Dallas Cowboys ball cap. Decided to buy one for myself. They had a bar set up in a large tent afterwards with a live band. I wore my new pink hat and had my "pre-selection" with me. The women were drooling over me. I will sarge alone and try this hat to see how it works. If a woman wants to open, they have the perfect opener...all they have to do is ask me if I'm gay.
The same time happened at the cowboy game too. A friend of mine was wearing a flower clip in her hair so I pulled it off and put it on my sleeve like a garder... Need less to say peacocking really does work... However what do you say when you get opened with a line like "why you wearing that"... Now I do you the common "you know you like it, after all you walked all this way to ask me about it" but this was a big party and it happened more than once... What else can I say

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