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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:35 pm 
All the pros(PUAS) are talking about how not to by drinks for girls, and this seems like some "iron law" or something. And I get what theyre saying, if you act needy and offer it out as gift youll end up looking like a total wuss.

But what I´ve done with quite good sucsess is use getting a drink for a girl as a pick up line (I totally deterred from it before because what i read about beeing a PUA) or a conversation starter.

What i usually do is casually ask some girl or girls to come and get a tequila with me ( I go for tequila because its got the whole ritual thing going for it, and it seems to me moore like fun an party, not like im trying to buy her attention with a beer).

So as I said I just started doing the, "let´s go get some tequilas" routine with girls and I´ve had quite good succsess with it.

An example buying drinks, last week I pulled this girl out from the tram and bought her drinks for her all evening, she was like an 8, and I ended up having sex with her in a nearby park.

SO my question is should I continue with getting drinks for women or is this really a definite NO NO as I´ve understood from many PUA writers???????????


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:55 pm 
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if it gets you laid, why stop it?!
if it starts going to shit. stop it right away!

but some pointers to keep you on track:

1.if the girl demands it or asks for it, don't buy it EVER. hoop theory won't help here. she'll have to notice and realize that you bought her a drink because YOU wanted to! it's just who you are! you are genuwinely giving.
don't give in to manipulation! -> she'll loose interest

2.never ever! let it go in that direction that the girl values your generosity and youre money more than she values YOU!! -> she'll loose interest

3.it should only be a reward, for something she did to you! (make youre own conclusions) just that's she's talking and hanging with you isn't enough! and also say it. ex. "oh! you grinded on me so well, i think you earned yourself a drink." type way. -> she'll want to earn other things as well. but don't make her a hooker. only reward her when YOU thought it was really cool what she did. but THE TIME WITH YOU SHOULD BE REWARD ENOUGH!!

4.never promise a drink to a chick!!! the buying her one has to be spontaneous! or atleast so that she thinks so.

5.try not to out buy her. if she won't buy anything for YOU, why should you buy anything to her??!!


nevertheless i don't buy chicks anything (maybe sometimes but sticking to the aboverules): chicks i hook up with now-a-days are seeking my approval and buy me things and buy my time etc. just like afc's do to girls.
i've been treated through the whole night: drinks, smokes, entrance tickets, cabs, the hotel room, condoms, breakfast, cab back home etc.
but in order to get this happen you truly have to BE THE PRIZE!!! the selector not the selectee.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:30 pm 
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Bigcojones your post is real good. I always end in the situation where the girl values my generosity and money more than me. damm. I am definetly keeping your guidelines in the back of my head next time I go out.

peace out bros.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:12 am 
Thank you BigCojones for the great feedback. I think I understand quite well what youre saying, and I suppose its about finding a balance, like experince will teach when its ok to by a drink an when not.

I think it can work if I make a point of it that its just me inviting her to have a good time with ME, an not me trying to get her attention or something like that..... ?

About the girl that i picked up from the tram, I made it a point to her about me buying an said something like; Shit, I never usually by drinks but I must have some kind of of a blackout today", so its not about her, its about me, the situation...etc...??? Also I would never have got her ass with me otherwise to the bar, cause she was broke so I said something like; Come on, i´ll by you drink if you come", an she was like "okay just one but I gotta get up really early tommorrow....", the rest is history..

I also get what youre saying about girls beeing the ones buying, I get that a lot of the time to, if you get a girl to by for you then shes all the moore hooked because she the one on the loss, etc... but to me its all about the situation.

Mayby Im not skilled enough, but always the girl won´t pay, an then I try to get us to pay for our own drinks, by ignoring her request to by a drink etc, women will often respect that they have to by theyre own....

Main point, sometimes buying works as an opener, if I can´t think of a better thing to say, then i´ll just use the "let´s go get some tequilas, you can´t drink tequilas alone...etc" routine. I mean you can say it to anyone an its just easy. I get one on one time with the girl ( she gets one on one time with ME), I get her drunk....so on an so on.... As long as it dosen´t make her loose respekt for me it´s all good...

I could also try inviting the chicks an then having them pay for their own drinks, Im just thinking it might make me seem arrogant, an dont think it´ll work cause it´s kind of implied that I get them the drink... a better routine could be to buy the first drink an then get them to buy the second, if they don´t or don´t give good explanation why not, then Im just wasting my time...?

Basically, what I think I wanted to know is does buying generally have to make me look like a wuss, an i think that the guidelines BigCojones gave me will help. Thank you


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:17 pm 
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>I think it can work if I make a point of it that its just me inviting her to have a good time with ME, an not me trying to get her attention or something like that..... ?

it would work even better that you didn't offer a drink you just invited her to have drinks/a good time with YOU! (and of course she's paying for her own goddamn drinks) remember you shouldn't reward her for hanging with you/coming with you

the "come on, i'll buy you a drink if you come" is a little off. it's like saying "i'll pay you, if you'll hang with me". A better one would be "if you come with me,[pause] i MIGHT buy you a drink" (with the body language of: i'm not sure yet, but if you play your cards right, i'll will) do it with the cheesy grin and the power on the word "might". this will give her a challenge and she'll want to find out if she can get you to buy a drink for her. if a chick says no, reply: "well, youre loss" and walk away and act like you don't need her and that you'll have a great time either way. some chicks arent that spontaneous. and some are just boring.
this would work for me. work on it until you can calibrate it.

>I also get what youre saying about girls beeing the ones buying, I get that a lot of the time to, if you get a girl to by for you then shes all the moore hooked because she the one on the loss, etc... but to me its all about the situation.

it means she respects you. and she's willing to pay for you'r time. when a girl buys you a drink you know you're in.
and about the situation: when you're game is rock solid, (not saying that mine is, but i have my moments.) they'll pay you each and every time. BE THE PRIZE. (being the prize took me a long time to figure out, but you'll figure it out too)

>but always the girl won´t pay, an then I try to get us to pay for our own drinks, by ignoring her request to by a drink etc, women will often respect that they have to by theyre own....

this is true for every PUA. and this is what i mean by not paying... the next level is that they pay for your drinks and you don't have to even pull your wallet out.

>Main point, sometimes buying works as an opener, if I can´t think of a better thing to say, then i´ll just use the "let´s go get some tequilas, you can´t drink tequilas alone...etc" routine. I mean you can say it to anyone an its just easy. I get one on one time with the girl ( she gets one on one time with ME), I get her drunk....so on an so on.... As long as it dosen´t make her loose respekt for me it´s all good...

this routine would be dynamite! IF you didn't pay for theyre drinks... what i mean is you didn't say you'd actually buy them drinks, so why do it?!!
if they start going on about you paying, reply "hey, i didn't say i was going to pay for them, i just invited you to have some tequilas with me!" (bodylanguage: i've out smarted you and you must be crazy if you think i'm buying you drinks. (remember to give it a cocky smile)). she should respect you even more for outwitting her. and this is totally unpredictable for her so she'll love you even more for it.
but as an opener i'm not sure. if you get enough attraction going on before the payment then ROCK ON! but otherwise it could be a bit arrogant. i'll have to try it out. i'll try it out over the weekend.


>I could also try inviting the chicks an then having them pay for their own drinks, Im just thinking it might make me seem arrogant, an dont think it´ll work cause it´s kind of implied that I get them the drink... a better routine could be to buy the first drink an then get them to buy the second, if they don´t or don´t give good explanation why not, then Im just wasting my time...?

TRY!! you have to try to succeed! failure is the best way to learn! BELIEVE ME! you might feel like shit for a while, but take failure as a learning experience. and look at it like hmmm... what new did i learn here?? =).
don't imply that your getting/buying (NEVER GET THEM ANYTHING! lead them to a spot where you can get the drinks, let them follow you. let them get theyre own drinks aswell). imply that youre willing to have drinks and a good time with them.

that routine shouldnt work, because it's hard to get them to do it after you already paid for one round, they could easily just go away and be grateful for the drinks. but if you have good attraction... =)

it's hard to get them to buy the second round. maybe if youd say before the drinks "i'll pay the first round. you guys pay the second??" (youre losing money with is, unless with a lone wolf) and if they say:"no" reply: "oh okay, let's just buy our own drinks then..." (smile like you were expecting this from the beginning)
i'll try this too... MAN!! i'm getting wasted off tequilas this friday! LOL!

you don't have to look like a wuss for buying, it's just hard. but if it's you
who wants to buy then cool! you can buy a round of drinks if you feel like it and if it makes your good time an even better one!

hope this helps

peace & god speed (good luck would have been wrong to say)


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:03 pm 
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check this one out for more

http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/03_A ... rink.shtml


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:13 am 
thanx man! sounds great, i´ll try it out this weekend!!


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