well if it cant be a non opinion opener its going to be kind of hard to do it

what i would try to do is on the way there look for something on her, whats she wearing, how shes standing, her facial expression or something to neg her on and use that as a opener, but mix in some funny with it or you'll come off as a cuntrag

OMG Openers

Or completely bold statements, such as

"My lesbian friend thinks you're SOOOOO hot"

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Honestly... anything you say that doesnt make you sound like an idiot will work as an opener.

-fuzz

If opinion openers become world-wide used, stop the "Hey, I need a quick opinion one thing." It will be better, at least I think, to first ask a woman "How good do you think you are with relationships?" She says good, you reply with "Well, my friend is still friends with his ex-girlfriend .................................... So what do you think he should do?"

Also, you can modify it to use with any opener; Simply the "How good do you think you are with X?" "Good, 'cause ....... So what do you think about it?"

Just prepare that most guys will now start "Hey, I need quick opinion on something, ... " so drop that line.

About other openers, OMG ones should work out just fine, if you can sell it.

Carpe Diem.

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in a nightclub, if a girl's sitting down, just exclaim loudly "CHEER Uuup! GOD."

She smiles, you smile (unless your Austin Powers) n you get her to dance. sorted

OMG! openers are great. I agree with Romeo.

OMG did you see that fight outside? (I have an awesome DHV story to go with this, plus I'm and MMA fighter so I have a whole routine from here)

OMG did you see what those idiot cops did outside? It was hilarious!

OMG did you see that drunk girl get kicked out? She was definately underage, but she was so funny!

etc etc.

I like to use 'reverse peacocking'. Find something on them and use it to open them.

e.g., One girl had a purse that had artwork on it that looked like it was from a Nintendo game.

I positioned myself close to her and casually looked down. I opened with
'Kick ass purse, what is on the other side'. Then followed up with talking about video games.

Another girl had a hairstyle (an 'up do' I think it is called). It made her almost look like Marge Simpson. I opened with saying she must have just seen the movie and took it to far.

Yesterday I opened this girl that was walking by, by asking her what a sticker on her chest said.

Its very easy to find something that can be talked about in a non 'I am hitting on you' kind of way.

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Double Your Dating by DD
(This will work on your inner game)

http://www.freewebs.com/xfman/
(This will work on your outer game)

I found a brunette HB target at the bar last night, she kind of resembled Jessica Alba so I had to have her, well at least her #. I simply approached the bar next to her, scanned the array of liquor bottles, I turned to her and said "I'm feeling adventurous tonight and would like to try something other than my usual drink. Might I ask what you are drinking?"

Her eyes lit up and she smiled as soon as I started speaking to her, and then she told me she was drinking something or another which sounded interesting so I ordered one myself. With that done I started a convo on cocktails and shots with her, it went along great. Ended with a perfect #close.

Now I'm going out with her to explore other mixers and elixors on wednsday.....

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Constructive critiscism polishes my blade to a razors edge.....

I was skeptical of the opener, Kaos, but it seems like it worked. Congrats, and great close! gl

Well Crush, I think it worked because I did order what she was drinking and this probably gave her the idea that I might have thought she had good taste. Although I never complimented her about the drink, I didn't complain either because I was focused on my overall goal of getting a # or a shag out of her. Besides, I wasted no time in consuming whatever it was, I don't think I even registered what it tasted like...

These seem to work for me.

I was at a baby shower for a friend and said this to one of the girls there when I caught her alone.
"We've been here for an hour, its a nice occasion and you haven't smiled once. You're either shy or mean. Which one is it?

I've also tried this as well, with women I meet on the street.
"Can I get a smile? That's all I'm gonna ask for"
she smiles and then say "see, that wasn't so hard was it? Now if you want to volunteer your name, that's up to you, but I'm gonna keep my promise and not ask for it".

as a variation of that. I'll follow up by asking her (and after her telling me her name)..."...so, Jenny, if I were to ask your best friend whats the best thing about Jenny what would they tell me?" (she answers) and then I ask "and if I asked her what does Jenny need to work on what would she say?" They usually ask why you ask that. and I say "there are lots of cute girls in this city, they are a dime a dozen, I just want to make sure you're one of the ones that is worth knowing" or "...make surre you're not one of the crazy ones" or "make sure I know a little about you before deciding if we're gonna know each other better"

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i agree with valence. you dont have to stick to canned openers. there are a bunch of things you can pick out on a girl to open her or even the set. like he said its the reverse of a pua putting on something to let him stand out. HB's are naturals at peacocking so it shouldnt be that hard.

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Use in a bar or club Ask a girl to "do me a favor, watch over my drink for a sec, with date rape statistics where they are you cant take any chances now adays, but you look harmless, you dont look like u need roofies to get a guy home , long as hes drinkn" smile at her(or wink, make sure she knows ur not a dick) and walk away go to the bathroom or go talk to someone else.
bam u opened and negd(some of the stuff you dont need to say, its all subjective and relies totally on how she reacts to the first part ive done it a couple times always a little different.) . make it a double neg by the drink being an empty beer or glass hand it to her after you open. smile and walk away and let her find you. if she doesnt then atleast she took care of ur empty drink.
if u come back for ur drink look at her skeptically as you take it, check the bottom of the glass for a roofy, and tell her to take a sip first.u can never be to careful. ive tried different variations of this one, using pieces here and there, i used it 4 times in cancun leaving parts out and made out with all 4.(cancuns too easy tho) and i used it twice in park city utah and got with one and nclosed. you dont always have to use it all, only what you feel you need,
ill post field reports if anyones interested but they were last may and dec so im too lazy unless ur curious.feed back always good. ha have fun with this one and suggest any twists or tweaks u like

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