not sure if there was a specific area to ask about wingman (or in this case women) but since it deals with going and opening I put it here. Anyways the reason I am asking, is that I'll usually go out with and/or get picked up by a few female friends. would the normal question/opinion openers work here?

this is one example out of the top of my head:

Me: hey me and my buddy here are having a serious debate about (bla bla blah), and we could use a secondary female opinion.

HB: blah blah blah

And go from there. If the HB asked why I was asking for another girl opinion or something I could always neg a lil my friend about how shes more like one of the guys or something.

I think styles said that one of the top things not to do is make the HB feel targeted. So I was thinking that maybe by approaching with another HB she wouldn't feel that targeted and might lower her defense a lil. So what do you guys recommend?

That opener is not to great. It is good though, to have a wing women/pivot for social proof. Not to mention that people seem to be attracted to something they can't have, so if girls see you with a hot girl they are more than likely to take a gander and it will make it easier for you to DHV.

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Of what you do, say and think." -Buddha

IMO,women are the BEST wingmen.

In pick up,many advanced PUAs suggest that you,at first,get a good circle of female friends,as they can attest to the other women you're gaming that you are a fun guy to be with.

Plus,who knows women better than...women!

If you have a woman wing with you,because women know about each other 100x better than us guys ever will,the whole process will run smoothly,and with 99.9% sucess.

Get some wingwomen.It works.

P.S:BE CAREFUL.There's a difference between having a female friend and having a female TELL you "Let's Just be friends".The latter is the universal code for "You killed it.We need to distance".Keep that in mind.

I think wingwomen are equal as wingmen. That is, equal in IMPORTANCE. Wingwomen can keep the set entertained (well, maybe not as good as man does), but more importantly, she can help you spot clues and problems, incongruence's etc. better than wingman. But, wingman is PUA too so you two can share informations and tips.

Also, having a female buddy, or wingwoman is GREAT thing for your social proof. The hotter the better, actually. Leading a guy doesn't mean hack; he has no social status just from sight. But super-hot woman does. The guy can be a creep and have no other friends. But SHB gets hit-on MANY times a day. So you must be exceptional.

Wingwoman; there's a great idea.

Carpe Diem.

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sweet thanks guys. yeah the ones i'm talking about I'd say are HB8. And they are the def. good friend type so I could probably get them to do it it then
Yeah I just re-read it and your right, not so great. But I didn't really give it much thought since the wingwomen idea came to me like a minute before I posted this thats why I didn't even go into the topic of the opener. I had gotten a call from one of female friends, wanting me to come out with her last night but I told her I was busy with some school work and that is when it hit me to ask this question. But yeah if you guys can come up with some better openers for this situation, by all means please post them. thanks!