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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:35 pm 
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Hello! I am pretty new to this but I have always suceed in making girls notice me and attract me. But I just don´t have the gut to move on or maybe I am doing it the wrong way. So I decided to learn som tricks specially MM. So I have a question. What do I do if the girls neg me back? or if she is nagging about my clothes or things like that?
How do I handle that?

Thankful for answer from someone who is experienced.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:18 am 
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i would have to say in this case if the girl is neg's you back that can be seen as a IOI. It would be a flirty type of thing.


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I would say more than anything make sure you are reading body language to know if she is negging you back or if she is insulted by what you said and insulting you back. A neg back is usually accompanied by a smile or a playful hit. When I first started all this I told a girl that her hair smelled like smoke and she told me I wore too much cologne. I took it as a neg back (IOI) and never thought twice about the fact she never smiled and looked unhappy. By staying around and trying to talk to her after, I was just pissing her off and making her uncomfortable. Just through experience if she is looking somewhere else, playing with her phone or playing with her bag its a bad sign. The best thing to do if a girl is truly negging you back is to laugh and show her you can take a joke. Sometimes I wipe a fake tear from my eye.


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Always watch the situation. If a girl is playful, playfully neg her back and run more game. If a girl is negging you back with a harsh attitude... neg her back harder. The whole idea is lowering her "ego" with DLVs. You need to balance these DLVs with DHVs, which make you more important to her. Social interactions are all based upon value-trading. The more value you have, the more a girl wants to cling on to that. Negging is one way, DHVs are another. Just make sure you are always the most important person. You can find DLV and DHV techniques by searching through the forum.

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Thanks for all the helpful anwers:D I will totally try them. Becuase here the problem with bitchy girls is bigger than useally.

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See my post in field reports. I had a serious bitchy girl shit test, and I blasted through it. Granted the ugly one got pissed off and made everyone leave, number one rule, dont lose your cool.

If they cant take a neg back, they are only trying to get rid of you anyway, and in the end, you end up turning the tables

bitchy girls are used to people taking their shit, thus they continue being bitchy.


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If you read Mystery Method then it does tell you how to deal with this. It's an IOD (indicator of disinterest). You pretty much just neg her back. A bit late but I figured I'd try helping.

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Girl - "I don't like your shirt, its gay" (or whatever else she negs)
You - "Yeaaaaah....Anyway" (while turning away and continuing conversation with another member of the group)

or..

You - "Well, thanks for your opinion darling, but I couldn't give a fuck less what you think about my shirt, or anything at all for that matter. Goodbye" (turn and continue conversation)

Get the point? Theres an infinite amount of ways you can react to that bitch shit. Play her out and keep moving. She'll be left stunned, confused, and turned on by your reaction.

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I'd handle like I would a disqualification. Agree and make fun of yourself. If she says you wear too much cologne, say you do and ask if she has something in mind of a recommendation for a better cologne. Smile while doing so of course.


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Not sure that would work, VanHaven. That is the kind of reaction that she would want/ expect. You need to throw something out at her that shows that you have more value than her and you don't need her opinion or approval. See what Meth said and learn from that. Those are great examples about what you could say.

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Agree and make fun of yourself.
My one personal rule of thumb is to NEVER make fun of myself, unless I'm doing it in a satirical AFC manner so that she KNOWS I'm ridiculing her opinion.

HB: "I don't like your shirt"
Me: "OMG MY LIFE IS OVER! I'm gonna go listen to Linkin Park!"

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I see where you're coming from, but we differ. I don't believe someone with value has to show or prove it. Why would someone that's supposedly confident in him/herself feel like they should have to qualify themselves for someone, especially when he/she is supposed to be the prize?


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Think about it like this: the girl is communicating that she thinks you're lower status than her, that's why she would put down something about you (if it's in a non-joking manner). By AGREEING with her opinion, you're communicating that you AGREE that you're lower status. It's the equivalent of escalating with a girl and she puts up some LMR and you apologize.

In my non-pick up days, I would agree with every low status comment that was made about me because I was under the false impression that modesty was attractive (even if I didn't agree with their opinion!!). AFCs are modest. PUAs are not modest. They make no apologies about their high status and/or their opinion of their self worth.

It's called a lot of things like being "congruent" or "reframing" or some other jargon, but it's all the same deal.

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Well said.

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If a girl negs me back, then maybe she's the one :-p

I really love it when the girl negs me back, Its a huge turn on, and allows me to compliment her personality (chicks like it when you compliment their personality).

Basically, she's playing along buddy. Go with it, and yes, DO MAKE FUN OF YOURSELF TOO. If you act offended or stiff, it's over.


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