Approach Anxiety 10's and 9's, but not 8's 7's etc.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:22 pm 
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Hey guys I have noticed something weird recently. I still get an incredible amound of approach anxiety around 9's and 10's, however i assume that's somewhat natural.
The problem is I don't even bother approaching 7's and 8's because i feel like they are not good enough for me. I don't even notice 6's and 5's.

I can force myself to go up to 9's and 10's in a set however if there is like a 6's and 7's in the group then i know they are my obstacle and i can't even talk to them i feel absolutely no desire to even look at them and i know i am supposed to disarm them by being friendly etc.

Another problem with this is that sometimes there is only a few 9's and 10's in a particular venue and i feel like after i have approached all i have sarged out the venue and I usually sit around like a tool, rupturing my social value, waiting for my friends to bounce to another location. I feel like i can't keep reapproaching the same 9's and 10's over and over.

Any advice?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:56 pm 
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First off, nice work being able to open up HB 10s n 9s no problem. Definitely a problem for a lot of guys, and to be there means you are doing great work.

It sounds like you have the opposite problem of what some guys have; that is, you can open up the hotter girls but not the uglier girls. It is a common problem for, in fact, the opposite (a guy can open up ugly girls but not hotter ones).

What will help you to start is identifying your goal(s) for the evening. Are you going out to have a good time, come what may? Are you going strictly to pickup the hottest girls in a bar/club? There are many other reasons, but the idea here is to identify your wants, that way your thoughts and actions are congruent with your wants for the night. Let us assume, for now, that you are going for the second reason.

By deciding to go out strictly to pickup hotter women, what you do then is subconciously disqualify girls who you do not deem "HB9 or HB10". This might be why you may think of them as lower than you, and their talking might frustrate you to a degree.

You are a human being. They are a human being. PUA's left girls better than when they found them.

It will help you to approach more 5s,6s,7s,8s because: 1. it will get you comfortable with them, 2. When you become good at gaming them, it will naturally get easier to game the 9s n 10s. 3. When you game them well, they will grant you entry in the set with the 9s n 10s. For girls, it is great social proof when another girl lets a man into the set. It shows he has something to offer, and is fun and a man who is interesting.

There is a word that catches my eye in your post. When describing your experience talking to the hotter girls, you use the word "force". By talking to girls who arent 9s or 10s, you will naturally become more comfortable talking to all girls, and will find yourself the center of more sets.

DO NOT CONFUSE WHAT I AM TYPING. Great advice I read here is that in order to grow as a PUA you must always go for the hottest, best girls. This is true. BUT you have to develop all the skills required to have succes with those girls. For most, that incldues being able to seduce their friends in a manner that they grant you access to the hottest girl.

Overall, have a great time when you go out. When you enjoy being around your friends, girls dig the vibe you send, and will pick up on it. Girls will even hit on you ;) , and when you are having fun, you can go out and talk to any girl knowing you will have fun with them. When you develop that mentality, talking to all girls will become more fun (and most importantly to you, easier).

Enjoy, and cant wait to read your next lay report or number close report!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:13 pm 
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Thanks VineLe i really dig some of your posts. I mean my mentality if definately that of "hunting" I feel like maybe i am so focused on improving my game that I don't really have that much fun. Even I feel like my actions are rehearsed and scripted and HBs no doubt pick up on that.

But I just can't get myself to occupy the obstacle, because i feel like i can't talk to a girl that I am not interested in. I am pretty good at direct game, but that kind of approach is out of the question in clubs. I do pretty poorly in clubs generally i don't get blown out and i can hook sets, however I will make a comment and the obstacles will show me IOIs or generally will want to talk to me and I just think "OK, you don't want to fuck this girl so why are you talking to her" and it screws up my game big time.
I even tried to visualize the 6's and 7's as victoria's secret models to be able to talk to them, but it's pretty hard to keep that vision in my head and i usually just get bored and excuse myself. I have also tried to engage the target directly and the expected happens and the obtacles blow me out or steal my girl.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:30 pm 
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Again man, props on being able to hook sets consistently. If you have some tools, you can definitely acquire the others, and get past this minor sticking point of yours.

What I like about you is you can be direct, you demonstrate to me the willingness to go and put on a show for these girls, and part of being a PUA is being able to put on a show and captivate those who are being seduced.

Honestly, this problem sounds like it might stem from an insecurity. Are they not good enough for you, or are they all you think you can get, and have to avoid them to fall into the "trap"? It sounds like your inner game needs to be solidified moreso in order to be comfortable talking to all girls. No human being is above another, and as previously stated, a good PUA leaves girls better than when he found them. That applies for both the obstacles and the target. When you apply that idea more consistently, you will see better results, I promise.

Also, you may want to consider bringing a girl out as a wing, or entering the club with a group of girls, to give you girls you are already comfortable with, and it gives you social proof that will make it easier for you to pull the hotter girls you desire.

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