Okay, so reading a previous thread, and the ones on www.seductionbase.com and one from an rsd newsletter, I have created a activity only for people man enough to try it. Is that you???
This thread this is what I am currently thinking Push Pull is, and how we all can apply it for spontanious thinking in feild.

Okay...Push Pull is bringing the two of you closer then putting up a wall (someone wrote this on the first page of this thread). Like Neigbours, or Melrose place (drama TV) where the tension is created (push), resolved briefly on firday night (pull) then just before the episode finnishes, hold up, we get a preview for next week and the drama is on again (push).


Now, I believe there are three different ways of push/pull. I have written them up and have had a go at three examples, with the option for you guys to put your own in too. This way, were not practicing pre-scripter lines. Moveover, we are practicing spontaneous thinking to use next time we go out, which is what this shit is all about anyway.



1- Connection with commonalities. An example in the RSD newsletter was:

You: I love ice cream, how about you?
Her: Oh me too. (pull)
You: Cool, I like mint chocolate chip, what's your favorite flavor?
Her: I like strawberry.
You: Oh man, those two are like polar opposites, haha, I bet we have complete different taste in food. (push)

Here I guess commonalities could vary for anything including:
Food, Music, Hobbies I.E Surfing, Bush Walking, Restarunts, TV shows, Movies, Perhaps even behaviours... doing nice things for friends, family, adventure, types of humor i.e Making fun of weird people, exegeration of facts to the point where it is not even slightly based on reality, sarcasm etc...

Here's two I made up

PUA: I loved reading the book To Kill A Mocking Bird, how about you?
Her: Yeah I loved that book in high school
PUA: (insert answer here PUA's.......) Well... (pausing for effect) I never actually read fiction novels, I only read that one cause I had to in year ten.

example 2
PUA: I really love the beach how about you…
HB: me too..I love sunbaking.
PUA: Ha, I love surfing, we go to the beach for totally opposite reasons.

Some auto pilot responses from MM you could use for the PUSH in the book example above could be:
-OMG... I cant talk to you now (Push)
-You may leave now

NOW guys the question is...Are you man enough to take on this line of death?
Here's one you can all try...
PUA: I really love...(in the bracketed paragraph below)............ how about you? pull

HER: Response...whatever the girl might actually say...

PUA. .......................... Pushing her away somehow.

the bracketed sentence...
(something you enjoy that you know the HB will admit to liking aswell. A no brainer boys. For Example SOCIAL DYNAMICS, sport, the beach (everyone loves the beach), food (you'll hit the goldmine with this one hahaha) etc...etc...




2- Physical Touch,
Where you pull her in somehow then push her away.
-Like when you signal her to come in closer on the dance floor and then when she is about to fall into your arms you push her away or
-When you go to kiss her and pull back at the last second (absoloute killer, cheers TOP GUN),
When you do the mystery ones of:
-When she touches you, dont touch me
This one is alot simpler then having to think of pulling with a commanality then pushing by putting up a wall. Caveman is easy baby.

Pulling her in Kino
Stroking your hand through her hair ( PUA's...make up some sort of kino)
Smelling her hair with you nose against her ear,
Turning around and re-iniate conversation (PUA's...devise a scheme for pushing her away physically)






No 3- Fitcicious/Future Scenareos (i have no fucking clue how to spell this word, sorry guys, haha. Rest assured... I will be a fully trained, teacher of the future this time next year mohaha. I will be teaching your kids biatches). Moving on... this one is like making up/role playing that you have already been together, or are about to be together, do something fun together but she has done something to ruin it or is about to.

-I am going to let you be my girlfriend... for the next five minutes
-You look like my future ex girlfriend
-Were broken up (we were together pull) I want my cd's back Push (Mystery-)
-You are drunk, we could have hung out we could have had the best time together.
-An example I created, I want to take you down town and dress you up in a Police outfit, and I will dress as the worlds greatest bank robber and you can desperatly try and fail at chasing me down the street again.
Awww, wait, your a blond...I need a brunet.
-We shouldnt be together (running finger down face) This one is a mix up of kino and make beileve.

Example for us to try:

1-Role play future ex girlfriend..
(crazy scenario fellas...pull)
Remember that time we went skiing together and nearly died, and then we got back to the hotel and dressed up as mexican bandito's and ate malasian chicken, and that sweet kiss we had by the fireplace... Man... how did you let me break up with you...

2-Roe play doing something fun with her (I am getting tired and think i covered this in the one above) but have a crack at it.

3. Quick one liner...

compliment....push

You are the coolest person I have talked to... in the last five minutes

You have the nicest smile... out of all the brunett's in the room.

Your are either .... fill in the blank
really fun or really weird
have a good sense of humor, or are related to stalin
really sensitive...or boring.


Cheers Biatches.
Oh and by the way, any of you guys who are not form Australia, and have not seen the movie Chopper, get it out right now. A serious movie with some really really funny bits in it.

P.S Dont be a pussy. You seen Shawshank Redemption. Well remember when he is talking to morgan freeman and he's about to break out of jail, but morgan thinks he is about to suicide. What's that line he says...ahhh.. thats it... there comes a time in life where you have to make a chioce...GET BUSY LIVING OR GET BUSY DYING!!

Not sure who these RSD guys are but holy shit, I bet even they were laughing at themselves when they came up with the ice cream bit. Anybody here ever hear of making a connection or breaking up due to ice cream flavors?

Push/pull works because it draws some real emotions. If you're smothering the girl asking about ice cream flavors and books, and movies, and restaurants, and beaches etc . . . all of this belongs in the afc's book of pushes in my mind. RSD sounds pretty official but I'm not sure if you've read their newsletter correctly. I don't know, maybe you did.

1. The game shouldn't be this complicated. 2. Most guys simply aren't smooth enough to memorize all these god awful lines and then deliver it as if it wasn't memorized.

rawlines, don't take offense but I'm not sure if you have an understanding of this push pull gig. If you ever meet a girl who's crushed that your ice cream flavors aren't a match, I'd love to hear about it. Have you heard of anybody who's made sexual connections over the love of a book? These things just don't draw positive sexual responses nor do they invoke any nervousness or fear . . .

Think about all the things that women absolutely love. Think, think, think. Do you believe that women ABSOLUTELY love that their favorite ice cream flavor is a match with a hot guy's favorite? No . . . so think about what they absolutely love: This is what you give them when you want to pull.

Think about the things that women absolutely fear. Do you think they hate the fact you read the Brethren while she read Harry Potter? No . . . so think about what really drives fear into women: This is what you give them when you want to push.

Dude, you seem creative enough so with these objectives in mind, I'm sure you'll come with some great material.

And it's just called "push". Other than some very specific scenarios, you don't usually ever want to physically push a girl away.

Any RSD pros here know the deal behind these ice cream type stories, I'd love to learn. Seems to me unless you're dealing with an 6 year old, you wouldn't get much response either "pushing" or "pulling".

Thanks for the post man,
To be perfectly honest I had no fucking clue weather or not i was on the right track with it hey. Still dont...but confidence is the key haha
Thank you for the post.

I can really see what you mean by im swimming in the kiddy AFC pool (eating ice cream and reading harry potter) while what I should be doing is jumping into the big kid pool (shagging in Swingers hits the rock pool). Basically, you want to have the girl gaging for it (not books or ice cream) then push with something she fears...fear of loss????

Breaking this down further....
With positive emotional sexual responses, I guess that pretty self explatory, like craving sex... having built a really strong attraction?

For the fear part...do you mean fear of losing someone that they have build a strong attraction for??? I will look into strong emtional responses and fear later...somewhere.... but is fear of losing the connection she has built what you mean? Like a take away?


If you want to give me an example of how you may approach this I soppose I wont mind...
I will look into positive sexual experiences and fear of chicks, then devleop shit form that but yeah your help is really appriciated

This is one I found on seducaiotnbase.com. It is the bail hook reel release theory but similar to the shit i have put in here...only... it is a little more on the ball haha. Basically..... he has kinda done what I have done except, he made her qualify herself to him, invest, then he has said he doesnt think it will work because of experiences with nurses. Here there is a sexual connotaiton, (she cant have him) is what he is pushing and pulling instead of what I was on about which was pulshing and pulling over a lame book.

Its pulling her emotions and attraction instead of conneciton with a book (I see this as lamer everytime I think about it, its good for a laugh at myself though haha)

Is this more of what you mean Pushing and Pulling attraction switches, hornniness, jealously etc.... I think it is....but maybe what you mean is more sexual...which would be awesome and because I have fuck all to do over the next week so i will be looking into that, and then trying it out. Chioce bro



I have the reputation of hooking up with chicks , all the time( some ppl who are virgins in my class, literally HATE me, although they never show it).

So i pued this chick once, and she is associated her one of the virgins i'm talking with. immediate, DLV. the virgin chick told her all sorts of BS( me being a player ) and killed all my social proof.SO that hb flaked on me a couple of times, and she got a job as a nurse! Last time i talked to her over the phone, she was unsure whether she wanted to meet me, and never wanted to go out with me for lunch.

Now I followed Mystery's bait , hook, reel, release, to regenerate attraction and called the same girl after two weeks. fluff talk, etc etc....then i thought..wtf..do it..i never try to re hook up but i'm bored today , so fuck it..i'll try getting her to come for lunch.

the BAIT: me: so hb, you are a nurse, is it..is that what you wanted to be..(get her to tell you some of her hobby or where she works.something you got 'impressed' with) HOOk: she immediately acknowledged and told me how MUCH she loves nursing and how she used to be judgemental before she was a nurse and how she is NOT judgemental ..etc..

REEL: ME:..that is simply awesome. i like nurses . they are genuinely good ppl, and very good natured. They have qualities like kindness and forgiveness, etc...and they dress 'sexy'( i dont give a shit in real life)

RELEASE: ME:you know, I know you make a wonderful nurse, but in my case, it NEVER WORKS with nurses! they are wonderful people but i have this strange feeling that nurses could become overnice , and lose thrill in life. you will change alot, i know. I think i'll have to stop talking to you for a while. OMG. this made her qualify herself like crazy. as a result: she is taking me to the MOST expensive restaurant for lunch and she is paying for EVERYTHING(i usually get chicks to pay, just for fun..and they LOVE it).. i told her that i will sms her to remind her and she asked me to do that and also 'she CANNOT forget'.

I like your persistence.

Okay, I am going to analyse the principals of this then give it a go on a solo sarge tonight.
I will love to see the results cause hardcore attraction is something I really want to develop now....I think this could work quite well.

Also... havent pashed a HB7 for about three weeks so I am getting more and more urges to go out and succeed.

Will post the results tommorow

Look . . . I could just straight out tell you what I think but I don't think you'd appreciate it that much. I mean, a thousand people have thousand different ideas. Anyhow, if your goal is to figure out what women love and what women fear, why bother looking for the answers out of a PUA handbook, forum, or manual? Go study some women! Hang out with your sister, friends, mother . . . be around them.

Why do they go to the bathroom in pairs? Why do they respond to negs? Why do they love shoes so much? Why the hell can't they go out without carrying a handbag even though it has nothing in it? Do your own little Jane Goodall . . .

In reality, I don't the think discovering the "truth" is as important as much as you personally identifying what you think is the truth, then following up with a strategy that you believe in . . . Have fun!