I made this one up...actually it came to me as more of a stand up routine but I think it can work as an opener if used properly.

Me: Let me ask you something, why is it considered normal hygien for a guy to wash his hands AFTER he uses a public washroom?

HBw/e: Wtf? (puzzled/slightly shocked)

Me: Hear me out... a guy goes through his normal day, enters a public whasroom, urinates and society suggests he THEN wash his hands. I disagree...after going through an average day, shaking strangers hands, opening and closing doors - I feel it is more hygenic to wash my hands before I handle the important parts of my body.

HB: uhhhh (still a bity shocked but starting to see my point) - whats wrong with washing your hands before and after.

ME: Exactly...so you agree, there are thousands of unhygenic guys walking around - thanks I just wanted a females opinion on that.


From there you can take it somewhere else if she responds favorably at all. If she doesn't well...shit happens. The trick is to be funny and charming while dealing with this subject matter - and not to come off like some OCD case.

IMO it works

a) because it will definetly grab her attention
b) you are kind of negging her by signalling that you are not putting her on any kind of pedestal (like blowing your nose in front of her)
c) In all honesty it is a very valid point and something she should concern herself with
d) it can be hilarious in the right hands
e) your value is demonstrated because you are unique, think outside the box, do not conform to societies norms, challenge authority and above all else are RIGHT


I've tried this opener once when I was a little drunk. I didn't deliver it quite right, I think the girl I was trying it on was already interested in me and I and she wasn't atking me seriously as if I was pranking her or something. Also once I got closer to her she transformed from an HB9 to an HB6.5 and I think that came accross in my opening. It ended with her waving her hands like what we were talking about was waaay to gross but I left her little choice, she wasn't laughing and was a little too dumbfounded...but I still think this opender has legs.

The only reason I am offering it to the community is because it is quite difficult subject matter and maybe someone else will have better luck with it. I may use it again but probably not as an opener more as a story/joke. Let me know if anyone wants to try it out

PS: wash your hands BEFORE you pee -

Wow its that good that no one wants to reply and ruin its untarnished image? oops, I guess I just did

Very clever!

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in a word i think canned openers are lame.

they dont allow people to come out of their shell, to be outgoing and fun and naturally talk to women. you practice with canned routines, you become reliant on canned routines. Although there is a place for them, dont become reliant on them. they hinder major progress and are a short of short term benefit.

now - this opener has a shock value, but in the end i dont think will work, its too masculine reliant about men...

secondly - it allows the women to think about you taking a piss in the mens toilet. bad.... you want them thinking sexually - not in a 'gross' way.

your trying to build comfort from the start - im not sure what could be ssaid next to allow for this. it may start a covo, but push them away sexually.

you might as well just 'stink palm' them