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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:39 pm 
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Here, I actually want to discuss 2 topics: approaching in the club and American girls.

So guys, how do you approach girls in the club?
1. What do you say?
2. And how do you know which girls to approach?
3. And I`m usually by myself in the club, which is bad I know, but I`m not from this town (college town) that I live in now so I made few friends so far, which are not party type guys; so usually I have to go alone to the club. And the problem is usually girls come with their friends and whenever I want to approach them I don`t know how to handle their freakin friends. So what would you do if you were me?
4. I read quite a lot of stuff on this topic, and most people talk about eye-contact, communication, body language,
but no one is taking into consideration that it is noisy in club and it is hard to see if girl is looking at you or how she is looking at you, what I mean is it is difficult to normally interact with a girl.
Actually, last night I was kind of grinding with some girl in club, I couldn`t see her front, but she was kind of dancing close to me, I mean she didn`t move to the other place, which I would expect if she didn`t like me, but suddenly I felt that someone pushed me from behind, I turned around and saw another girl (which I think was her friend), she said something (I suppose, in an angry way), I couldn`t hear, and another friend of hers pushed me and said something, which again I couldn`t hear; and finally, that girl I was dancing with left me dancing with her friend. I really can`t understand such things. I expect girl, which doesn`t like me, to leave me immediatelly without playing, but here I see how girls blow me off as they think (I assume) "in a polite way". I think it is okay if she says that she has a boyfriend or she doesn`t want to dance or she is leaving the club, but I totally can`t understand when girls act like this, they dance in front of you but when you want to kind of hug her, she acts like you want to rape her, I don`t know.
I can`t understand which things from what she is doing are signals to approach her and which are not.
5. So far I have seen that American girls in the club hang out with American guys (I don`t know if they know each other in advance). And to be honest what freaks me out is that sometimes these guys smell bad, dress poorly, some of them are fat, I mean they definitely do not look like the most handsome guys in the club; while I take shower before going to the club, I put my best and cleanest clothes and spray one of the best-smelling perfumes on me, so I`m clean, I smell good (even one of the girls I approached told me she likes my smell and she was nice to me but then she said that she has to leave), I dressed very well, I`m not fat, I`m not skinny, I`m working out, well but I have to admit that I`m not fitted-and guess what? I don`t get any fuckin attention! while those dirty ass guys do. So I start to feel that the problem is I`m not American, I`m white though but with black hairs and my face skin is not as smooth and yellow as American`s, I mean I don`t look like an American, which I think is the problem. Or maybe I`m ugly, I`m really so much frustrated.
I would try to approach foreigners if they were in the club, but unfortunately I never see them in the club.

So the conclusion I come to is that it is better not to approach the girls in the club at all, it is better wait until they approach you, this way I won`t get psychological trauma/embarassment; or maybe I should wait until I get some very very explicit signal from her, like standing close to me and looking at me and smiling, am I right?

You guys have more experience, and I`m newbie, especially I`m new in the USA, please help me.


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man I know this will get all the puas to come out *like sharks in the fresh blood infested waters lol*

for me 1) i approach by dancing *cause in college I would go the the free / deeply discounted events for dancing*

2) approach the girls based on number in group and looks. the looks isn't if she hot or not but if she LOOKS like she wants to dance.

I don't know if you seen / study body language but a good test to do is walk around the dance floor and the girls looking in the center want to dance.

I can't wait to hear from the other / featured posters :D


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Here, I actually want to discuss 2 topics: approaching in the club and American girls.

So guys, how do you approach girls in the club?
1. What do you say?
2. And how do you know which girls to approach?
3. And I`m usually by myself in the club, which is bad I know, but I`m not from this town (college town) that I live in now so I made few friends so far, which are not party type guys; so usually I have to go alone to the club. And the problem is usually girls come with their friends and whenever I want to approach them I don`t know how to handle their freakin friends. So what would you do if you were me?
4. I read quite a lot of stuff on this topic, and most people talk about eye-contact, communication, body language,
but no one is taking into consideration that it is noisy in club and it is hard to see if girl is looking at you or how she is looking at you, what I mean is it is difficult to normally interact with a girl.
Actually, last night I was kind of grinding with some girl in club, I couldn`t see her front, but she was kind of dancing close to me, I mean she didn`t move to the other place, which I would expect if she didn`t like me, but suddenly I felt that someone pushed me from behind, I turned around and saw another girl (which I think was her friend), she said something (I suppose, in an angry way), I couldn`t hear, and another friend of hers pushed me and said something, which again I couldn`t hear; and finally, that girl I was dancing with left me dancing with her friend. I really can`t understand such things. I expect girl, which doesn`t like me, to leave me immediatelly without playing, but here I see how girls blow me off as they think (I assume) "in a polite way". I think it is okay if she says that she has a boyfriend or she doesn`t want to dance or she is leaving the club, but I totally can`t understand when girls act like this, they dance in front of you but when you want to kind of hug her, she acts like you want to rape her, I don`t know.
I can`t understand which things from what she is doing are signals to approach her and which are not.
5. So far I have seen that American girls in the club hang out with American guys (I don`t know if they know each other in advance). And to be honest what freaks me out is that sometimes these guys smell bad, dress poorly, some of them are fat, I mean they definitely do not look like the most handsome guys in the club; while I take shower before going to the club, I put my best and cleanest clothes and spray one of the best-smelling perfumes on me, so I`m clean, I smell good (even one of the girls I approached told me she likes my smell and she was nice to me but then she said that she has to leave), I dressed very well, I`m not fat, I`m not skinny, I`m working out, well but I have to admit that I`m not fitted-and guess what? I don`t get any fuckin attention! while those dirty ass guys do. So I start to feel that the problem is I`m not American, I`m white though but with black hairs and my face skin is not as smooth and yellow as American`s, I mean I don`t look like an American, which I think is the problem. Or maybe I`m ugly, I`m really so much frustrated.
I would try to approach foreigners if they were in the club, but unfortunately I never see them in the club.

So the conclusion I come to is that it is better not to approach the girls in the club at all, it is better wait until they approach you, this way I won`t get psychological trauma/embarassment; or maybe I should wait until I get some very very explicit signal from her, like standing close to me and looking at me and smiling, am I right?

You guys have more experience, and I`m newbie, especially I`m new in the USA, please help me.
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1. What do you say?
I don't usually plan what to say,

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2. And how do you know which girls to approach?
Ones that look interesting to me, that I can construct a natural and original opener with.
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And I`m usually by myself in the club, the problem is usually girls come with their friends and whenever I want to approach them I don`t know how to handle their freakin friends.So what would you do if you were me?
I used to go out ALL the time - I usually get my BEST results with single women or women in small groups (2-3 persons). At times, I'd actually make friends with groups of guys, and gain insta-wings. But in general can't say I do anything much different when I approach a small group or large one - generally I focus on one or two people, talk to the group, and let them introduce me.
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I can`t understand which things from what she is doing are signals to approach her and which are not.
Smile. Look at her face, particularly her eyes when you do so. Judging by the look on her face, you'll know whether she's turned off or not. Unless she's COMPLETELY turned off, you can approach.
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I don`t look like an American, which I think is the problem. Or maybe I`m ugly, I`m really so much frustrated.
Your lack of results have NOTHING to do with being American, or your looks. These guys who you disparage are almost certainly approaching large numbers of women every night out, and pushing escalation, while you are not. I note with interest that you haven't even mentioned one approach YOU have made. Don't expect women to come up to you, whether or not you look good. YOU have to do the work and approach THEM. You will fail at times, but the more you approach, the more you'll succeed. But stop comparing your results to others and put in the work!


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Here, I actually want to discuss 2 topics: approaching in the club and American girls.

So guys, how do you approach girls in the club?
1. What do you say?
2. And how do you know which girls to approach?
3. And I`m usually by myself in the club, which is bad I know, but I`m not from this town (college town) that I live in now so I made few friends so far, which are not party type guys; so usually I have to go alone to the club. And the problem is usually girls come with their friends and whenever I want to approach them I don`t know how to handle their freakin friends. So what would you do if you were me?
4. I read quite a lot of stuff on this topic, and most people talk about eye-contact, communication, body language,
but no one is taking into consideration that it is noisy in club and it is hard to see if girl is looking at you or how she is looking at you, what I mean is it is difficult to normally interact with a girl.
Actually, last night I was kind of grinding with some girl in club, I couldn`t see her front, but she was kind of dancing close to me, I mean she didn`t move to the other place, which I would expect if she didn`t like me, but suddenly I felt that someone pushed me from behind, I turned around and saw another girl (which I think was her friend), she said something (I suppose, in an angry way), I couldn`t hear, and another friend of hers pushed me and said something, which again I couldn`t hear; and finally, that girl I was dancing with left me dancing with her friend. I really can`t understand such things. I expect girl, which doesn`t like me, to leave me immediatelly without playing, but here I see how girls blow me off as they think (I assume) "in a polite way". I think it is okay if she says that she has a boyfriend or she doesn`t want to dance or she is leaving the club, but I totally can`t understand when girls act like this, they dance in front of you but when you want to kind of hug her, she acts like you want to rape her, I don`t know.
I can`t understand which things from what she is doing are signals to approach her and which are not.
5. So far I have seen that American girls in the club hang out with American guys (I don`t know if they know each other in advance). And to be honest what freaks me out is that sometimes these guys smell bad, dress poorly, some of them are fat, I mean they definitely do not look like the most handsome guys in the club; while I take shower before going to the club, I put my best and cleanest clothes and spray one of the best-smelling perfumes on me, so I`m clean, I smell good (even one of the girls I approached told me she likes my smell and she was nice to me but then she said that she has to leave), I dressed very well, I`m not fat, I`m not skinny, I`m working out, well but I have to admit that I`m not fitted-and guess what? I don`t get any fuckin attention! while those dirty ass guys do. So I start to feel that the problem is I`m not American, I`m white though but with black hairs and my face skin is not as smooth and yellow as American`s, I mean I don`t look like an American, which I think is the problem. Or maybe I`m ugly, I`m really so much frustrated.
I would try to approach foreigners if they were in the club, but unfortunately I never see them in the club.

So the conclusion I come to is that it is better not to approach the girls in the club at all, it is better wait until they approach you, this way I won`t get psychological trauma/embarassment; or maybe I should wait until I get some very very explicit signal from her, like standing close to me and looking at me and smiling, am I right?

You guys have more experience, and I`m newbie, especially I`m new in the USA, please help me.
Quote:
1. What do you say?
I don't usually plan what to say,

Quote:
2. And how do you know which girls to approach?
Ones that look interesting to me, that I can construct a natural and original opener with.
Quote:
And I`m usually by myself in the club, the problem is usually girls come with their friends and whenever I want to approach them I don`t know how to handle their freakin friends.So what would you do if you were me?
I used to go out ALL the time - I usually get my BEST results with single women or women in small groups (2-3 persons). At times, I'd actually make friends with groups of guys, and gain insta-wings. But in general can't say I do anything much different when I approach a small group or large one - generally I focus on one or two people, talk to the group, and let them introduce me.
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I can`t understand which things from what she is doing are signals to approach her and which are not.
Smile. Look at her face, particularly her eyes when you do so. Judging by the look on her face, you'll know whether she's turned off or not. Unless she's COMPLETELY turned off, you can approach.
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I don`t look like an American, which I think is the problem. Or maybe I`m ugly, I`m really so much frustrated.
Your lack of results have NOTHING to do with being American, or your looks. These guys who you disparage are almost certainly approaching large numbers of women every night out, and pushing escalation, while you are not. I note with interest that you haven't even mentioned one approach YOU have made. Don't expect women to come up to you, whether or not you look good. YOU have to do the work and approach THEM. You will fail at times, but the more you approach, the more you'll succeed. But stop comparing your results to others and put in the work!
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Your lack of results have NOTHING to do with being American, or your looks. These guys who you disparage are almost certainly approaching large numbers of women every night out, and pushing escalation, while you are not. I note with interest that you haven't even mentioned one approach YOU have made. Don't expect women to come up to you, whether or not you look good. YOU have to do the work and approach THEM. You will fail at times, but the more you approach, the more you'll succeed. But stop comparing your results to others and put in the work!
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I can`t understand which things from what she is doing are signals to approach her and which are not.
Stop looking for "signals." This is nothing more than your ego trying to protect you so you don't get "rejected."

If YOU are feeling in a mood of connection with the world in general, the woman will pick up on this. YOU go first. "Looking" for signals is a form of high supplication. Avoid this.


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