I have started practicing pickup since a month and now I am getting a knack of day game a bit. Have got most of the number closes when I asked for number which also means that I am waiting too long and ejecting early without closing.

But I have no start in club/dance floor yet. In clubs, mostly girls are not able to hear what I am saying so I have to go close which then seems creepy or invading their space. If I yell, then that comes out as very bad tonality. Mostly their friend comes in for rescue and says she is their girl friend or some thing.

Dance floor sucks too for me. Can't even find a way to approach or dance. Mostly girls dance in a kind of closed circle. When I go in front, girls turn around. If I try to grab eye contact, it seems as I am not dancing and just standing their to get their attention. When I try to break the circle, thats definitely bad. When I try to touch on shoulder to get their attention, that doesn't work as well. Rarely a girl a turns around or doesn't turn away, and I don't know what to do. Music is too loud too.

I read a book called "Skills Method" and also saw some Gambler's video, which was mainly to dance close to girl -> get eye contact by chance/luck -> do something funny or just keep dancing so that they notice multiple times -> ask for hand or touch on shoulder to turn her around -> dance for some time. But I don't understand how above steps can lead to penetrating a closed circle where girls are mostly looking at each other and asking for hand or touching should to turn her around in a closed circle can lead to good open.

Any pointers on how to open in a club or dance floor?

Firstly, if you plan on having conversations with girls, don't go to dance clubs. Save the verbal game for bars or day game or whatever. It's really cringe when you see guys pay to go in clubs just to stand all night in the smoking section because it isn't too loud out there. So if they like a girl that doesn't smoke they are pretty much sabotaging themselves.

Opening girls on dancefloors, just like verbal game. If she likes you she will talk to you. So when you open on the dance floor and that she likes you she will dance with you. Often her friends will leave you to it since her friends know her type. You just need to shut the fuck up and escalate physically and non verbally. ( for example, Being in each other's arms and looking into each other's eyes like you want to fuck each other)

Sounds like to me you're using daygame in clubs. It's not about getting in front of them and 'making their day' anymore. It's about physically woo-ing them.

You even see AFC's making out with girls on the dancefloors because it's more about the non verbals and letting loose. It's easy for girls to stand near a guy she likes. Usually it's the guy that is the most comfortable in his skin on the dance floor.

Treat the dancefloor separately than your comfort zones. Often I make eye contact with a girl and just simply take her arm and spin her into me and then just escalate. If you do this to most girls you will get laid by accident if you do this one move enough.

Their friends usually leave you to it so you should take her off the dancefloor for some drinks/fresh air outside and then you're at the mercy of logistics which is a different subject entirely

To summarise:
- stop day gaming in clubs
- more physical escalation
- more non verbals (forcing IOI's)
- read 60 years of challenge

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Thanks Dragula for your detailed answer. Very helpful.

A couple of questions:
1. When you make eye contact and take her hand/arm, you will probably need to find an opening to that girl from her front. I tried saying "Excuse me" to other girls in order to reach the girl in the front, but that pisses off the friends usually. May be I am doing it wrong. Do you do the same?
2. What about girls in the lunge/bar section of the club when music is still loud enough but girls are not dancing? I tried to approach there verbally, girls talk a bit but mostly like name, e.t.c. Nothing more can be talked about at such loud place too.

I completely agree that in venues like this, non-verbals is the key like being high energy, passionate, body-language e.t.c. I am a 5'2" guy so have a little disadvantage(in terms of looks) than other AFCs in these venues but determined to solve this problematic area of my life now.

1) not sure I understand the question, but when girls are facing each other in a circle. You can simply 'bump into her' and force a reaction when she looks around. Take her hand and spin her away from her friends. Do it with conviction and her friends think you're smooth. If you hesitate, they will feel like you're an intruder. If yo feel like you're bringing the energy to the group the girls will sense it. You have been in state before right? Your vibe is adding and not taking, hope that makes sense

2) in loud areas. Same applies, force the eye contact and the break the ice. You don't have to dance but you can still physically escalate. You can spin her and look at her as if you're checking her ass out. Then give her a thumbs up as if she passed your criteria. This can be enough to mimic a "let's go to the bar" hand gesture, or "let's go for a smoke" hand gesture where you can turn on your verbal game. (still escalate the whole time though)

Also, you can also take her TO the dance floor and get all sleazy and touchy

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One that has pretty much always worked for me is this:


"You look bored."

Then extend your hand for a handshake and start to dance with them when they take it.


Telling the girl she looks bored immediately makes her think 'Oh shit, I better seem more interested in being here' and by this time you're holding her hand so the best way for her to show that is to dance with you.

Dancefloor game is beautiful as fuck because it is simple to implement. No long routines to memorize. If you get blown out, there are more beautiful chicks literally 5 feet in front of you. To be successful at dance floor game you need a few things:

1. Willingness to act CONFIDENTLY/Dominance/Being willing to lead
2. Willingness to HAVE FUN and be outcome INdependent
4. Being willing to physically escalate
5. Sort out LOGISTICS

When you get on the dancefloor, you should be having a good time. You should be dancing or moving to the music, and really enjoying YOURSELF. IF you are enjoying yourself, when you do approach, your emotional state will be quickly picked up by whoever you approach.

I advise dancefloor gamers to watch their target for a little while. GET CLOSE to them and make eye contact while dancing. Don't be afraid to "accidentally" bump into them. Judge their reaction from your eye contact and physical contact. If they're not running away screaming, THEY ARE GAME. Put your hand out and take their own. If you hesitate or seem unsure, you will almost ALWAYS lose the set. Do it with an air of confidence. Dance with her. LEAD. Pull her close. Run your hands across her back. You can make one or two comments about something funny or amusing, but this is NOT the time to discuss Middle East Foreign Policy.

However, IF possible, get her Facebook name or SPAM. Don't wait because dancefloor girls have a tendency to disappear with their friends in a puff of smoke. And speaking of friends...

Get an introduction to her friends. If she is alone with a group of females, they WILL be likely to cockblock you HARD, so keep that in mind. You want HER to introduce you to them, as opposed to introducing yourself. If she's with a mixed group, things will be easier and there's less likelihood of the cockblock.
If she is alone, then you should thank your lucky stars, because women who go to the club alone are you best shot for getting laid.

Now that you've met her friends, you need a drink! Why doesn't she follow you to get a drink? Or maybe she needs to help you find those friends who you lost in the club? Or heck, there's this really COOL room upstairs playing nothing but 80's music, wouldn't it be great to go up there?

Move her around the venue. Bounce her around the bar. ISOLATE. You've already felt her physically - but you need to know more about her. Establish that connection and make her tell you more about yourself.

Also, calibrate the situation. If she's ready and rearing to get laid, then don't spend the next few hours in the club.But don't rush the interaction TOO much. You have to push, not SHOVE. Establish logistics. Most importantly, WHO DID SHE COME WITH? If she has a boyfriend. How far away does she live? Did someone else drive her or is where she lives within walking distance? Who does she live with? All these are necessary to establish whether there needss to be a Day 2 or if you should continue escalating outside of the club.