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darkie_jackal
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:23 am 
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Hi there,

Since my game sucks, I am focussing on openers.

Well which method do you recommend trains its students the best on opening?

Mystery Method?

Ross Jeffries? (I really am eager on learning this, but it doesnt seem he spends much time on openers)

RSD?

Please advise,

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A lot of girls know mystery method openers so I would just avoid.

Situational openers are by the best in my opinion and they require some content "training" to think about to say..

For example, I was at a night club recently at 2am. I could see a girl on her phone looking frustrated. I said to her that it looks like she is boot calling that bad boy that she promised herself not to text...

It broke the ice because I think I was right but even if I was wrong. It is very calibrated and organic as opposed to the canned stuff that can be transparent

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Opening is a small thing to a giant to be honest.

Regardless of what your opener is, its going to be difficult for you to take the conversation beyond the opener without the necessary social skills.

So if you can't walk up to a woman and say " hi " and maintain a decent banter between the two of you; the advanced openers are going to make that much of a difference. Theres no opener with the exception of the Apocalypse opener, that is going to get you laid on its own. So i say focus on the conversation more so than focusing on the opener.

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Opening is a small thing to a giant to be honest.

Regardless of what your opener is, its going to be difficult for you to take the conversation beyond the opener without the necessary social skills.

So if you can't walk up to a woman and say " hi " and maintain a decent banter between the two of you; the advanced openers are going to make that much of a difference. Theres no opener with the exception of the Apocalypse opener, that is going to get you laid on its own. So i say focus on the conversation more so than focusing on the opener.

You got a point.

No no canned openers for me.

liek the other day I "opened" a girl just asking ' Hey are you guys from the states?'

I dont know why the PUA society likes to label things and make its so unnatural and scientific: "Openers" before it was called "starting a conversation with a girl" ....


Thats why I like Ross Jefferies, its great for conversation.

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Hi there,

Since my game sucks, I am focussing on openers.

Well which method do you recommend trains its students the best on opening?

Mystery Method?

Ross Jeffries? (I really am eager on learning this, but it doesnt seem he spends much time on openers)

RSD?

Please advise,
dont focus on openers since that is the least important thing in game. 95% of women dont even remember the opener when you ask them.
use anything for an opener

focus on getting her to talk more than you then rewarding her with sexual escalation.

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Situational openers are the best as you're sharing commonality and relating to her on an emotional level in the present. Sometimes I will jump into someone else's conversation at a high point like I'm part of it and it works great. Complimentary openers on something she put effort into (not her natural beauty) are good default openers.

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Openers are irrelevant thing... you can say basically everything

last week i kclosed girl with chocolate skin with using this opener: hey, you are black?

I had long lasting relationship with gorgeous girl using this line to open her set of 5 or so people: hey, who can speak english here (i was lucky, that she start to yell ME ME ME :))

I also used opener: Hey I bet you are from colombia

I very often say just: Hey, who are you?

The important thing is just to open, which is hardest part due to AA.
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Italianman
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Openers are irrelevant thing...
So please delete this forum's section. :lol:
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Openers are irrelevant thing...
So please delete this forum's section. :lol:
I mean it is not bad to have some opening routines if you don't know how to open naturally. I think I used some routines before and it is working as well. But like somebody wrote before, girls dont remember how did you open them, crucial thing is to build some attraction in first minutes.
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Checkm4t3 I know what you meant and your post has been precious, but I couldn't resist to write that line. It was only a joke, cause here everybody says that opener is irrilevant: what really matter is what and how you say after. :D
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Openers are irrelevant thing...
So please delete this forum's section. :lol:
I mean it is not bad to have some opening routines if you don't know how to open naturally. I think I used some routines before and it is working as well. But like somebody wrote before, girls dont remember how did you open them, crucial thing is to build some attraction in first minutes.

Could you refer me to a good source for opening routines?

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