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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:07 pm 
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Ok you approach the target from behind, tap her on the sholder and be like hey *random girls name*. when she turns around be like "oh sorry i thought you where my friend *random girls name*, she's wearing the exact sam dress/skirt etc as you. Then say i needed her advice but i guess you can help instead.... throw ftc and do an opinion opener.

My theory behind this is you are flicking the preselection switch by letting her believe you thought shwe was your female friend. You are then negging her by saying your friend is wearing the same dress as her (girls hate when this happens).

I'm going to try it out this weekend and see how it goes... If anyone else wants to field test it too feel free... please report back though :)

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Ok you approach the target from behind, tap her on the sholder and be like hey *random girls name*. when she turns around be like "oh sorry i thought you where my friend *random girls name*, she's wearing the exact sam dress/skirt etc as you. Then say i needed her advice but i guess you can help instead.... throw ftc and do an opinion opener.

My theory behind this is you are flicking the preselection switch by letting her believe you thought shwe was your female friend. You are then negging her by saying your friend is wearing the same dress as her (girls hate when this happens).

I'm going to try it out this weekend and see how it goes... If anyone else wants to field test it too feel free... please report back though :)
I've heard of the mistaken identity opener too but it's done a little differently. I just want to say that approaching a girl from behind is kind of creepy and it's not as comfortable as when someone approaches you over the shoulder or at more of an angle. I can't remember exactly how the mistaken identity opener goes but it involves a wing.

You can always flip the preselection switch in an opener by mentioning a past girlfriend. For example I use a myspace opinion opener where I say, "Let me get your opinion on something...false time constraint of choice...Would you ever date someone you met on myspace?" "The reason I ask is my past girlfriend xxxx and I were talking because this guy messaged her on myspace about a week ago. They got to know each other and he wants to take her out...."

I do like the use of your creativity with the opener, the dhv spike, and the neg all rolled into one. I think you are on the right track but I just don't typically recommend opening people from behind its a little weird for her, and just isn't as comfortable.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:03 am 
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I agree with J. Smooth about opening the girl from behind. The opener will definatley work though. You may want to have your head in a book while you open her over the shoulder at an angle with the same opener. and make it seem as though you were reading something and out of the corner of your eye you saw what "looked like" your friend cause of what she was wearing. That way you can still use the mistaken identity opener if you don't have a wing at that time, and you don't open from behind.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:17 am 
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what if i was to approach sligtly angled from the side? Say its a 2 set that are facing eachother and i shout "hey sarah" or something before i reach her so she has turned to me by the time i reach her?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:33 am 
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For that you would have to be pretty calibrated to do that being that she would first need to turn around. How many times do you turn around when someone elses name is called? Over the shoulder will demonstrate non-neediness and uninterest, instead of now a guy walking straight up to her, which seems confronting, especially since now you know it is not your friend cause she turned your way (if she did turn around)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:44 am 
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Hmm i see your point... is there any way i can pull this off without approaching from behind?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:01 am 
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I know this is just a game but if you want to sell the "mistaken identity", then it's got to be believable. Really? She's wearing the same dress? How do you know? Where is she? You were walking around the street to look for her to look for an opinion on some random topic?

It's a good opener but I think it's become too complicated.

I think all you'd need after, "Oh jeesh, I thought you were my friend." Is

"You look so much like her. . . . Oh I'm sorry, that's so embarrassing, I haven't done that since I was like 6 years old with my mom at the mall!"

You don't need any excuses for this event ie, dress, hair, opinion, etc . . . Women don't follow our train of chronological order and the need to make everything make sense. They go more with feelings and emotions. They see you've embarrassed yourself in that aloof way and it turns on their maternal instinct. She'll stick around long enough to reassure you and tell you everything is OK. Really . . .

In regards to coming up from behind, I know that this is some "standard" no no in the book off PUA's but with this opener, I think it's perfectly fine. This is the "mistaken identity"! I mean if you came from behind and said just about ANYTHING else, it would go into the creepy stalker category.


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