Opening, but set is always asking why are you talking to us?



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:19 am 
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Need help guys, I know the flow of the game but I think this is the one stopping me from my success. I do indirect openers. So here's my opener.

Me: Hey, I need your opinion on something. (nega body language)
Set:(stop talking, walking or everything) Sure, what is it. (Sometimes they just don't look at me.)
Me: I have this ex-gf and we're friends. Now, one guy is trying to court her, but she turn him down. I ask her what is her reason since the guy is nice guy, good looking. Her reason was that the guy's favorite song is the theme song of barney. You know, the I love you you love me shit. If you are my ex -gf would you do the same?
Set:(laughing/ignoring me): depends blah blah

After the opener, I can sense that (and sometimes I can see it in their face) they are asking, why are you talking to us?

Is it my body language? Or is it normal, should I continue my convo? Change to another opener?

In body language, as indirect, I know that I should not be facing them. So, what do you think guys. Sometimes, if I persist, I can get away with it, but I think it will help if I can fix this problem.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:59 am 
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idk abt indirect but this is natural. If some random person came up to you you'd wonder why he/she is talking to you or what he/she wants.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:15 pm 
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Hold on a minute. So the sets never verbally asked you this question, you can just see it in their face?

Its all in your mind then. It may just be they always have that face around strangers. It may be that you're dragging the conversation. It could also just be all in your mind.

I'm very sure its all in your mind and you're questioning yourself while in set "Are they ok with me talking to them?".
You may not think so, but whatever you're focusing on, you're expressing. Maybe not verbally, but through your body language, your tonality, the things you chose to speak about, and your eye contact. All these things act together to give off a vibe that transmits whatever you are thinking or feeling at that moment. And guess what, whatever you feel she will feel. This is how society's brains are wired. The man leads and the woman is led, its a subconscious process. Think of women as a mirror of yourself. Even if she's angry before you approach her, if you are transmitting confidence and comfort, she well exude comfort around you. If you are transmitting nervousness or anxiety, she will start showing the emotions within seconds.

So work on your mentality. Focus on being comfortable, not on being liked. Focus on feeling confident no matter what she does or says, dont focus on her reactions. Focus on your tonality and body language, not on what to say.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:54 pm 
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If you just think that they might be thinking it, get out of your head and plow through. Keep talking, be interesting. If you are speaking confidently then they won't ask "why is he here" because they will be too busy with the conversation.

If they are actually saying it then it's possibly because of the opener or how you act after the opener. In general out on the streets or in a coffee shop, I prefer the direct approach, especially if it's a one on one approach. If it's in a bar or if you are approaching a group then I think indirect has it's advantages.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:06 am 
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If they really are thinking that then they'll straight up tell you.
It's all in your head

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