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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:13 pm 
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So i just put together this opener, haven't field tested it yet wanna know what you guys think before trying it out.

I took some of the general openers and threw in some original stuff too, please let me know! thanks!

Of course make sure you get the basics out of the way...

PU: "Quick question, I cant stay long its guys night out and I shouldnt even be talking to you but...A buddy of mine just found out his girl was cheating on him and he hasn't confronted her about it yet, should he confront her or just break up with her and not give her a reason?"

Set: (Answers blah blah blah)
PU: "But girls always seem to want closure even if they know they were the one lying..."

(You could wait for a response or just jump into)

PU: "let me ask you this who lies more girls or guys...?"

Set: (blah blah)

PU: (Interrupting to target) "you look like you've told your share of lies...have you?"

HB: Yes/Maybe
PU: I had a feeling you were trouble...we wouldn't get along were too alike. And thats me being honest. *I know your type.

or

HB: No.
PU: come on, a girl *your type and you expect me to believe that?


Now you can leave the *your type out if you'd like but they are most likely going to ask you....


HB: Well whats my type?

I haven't got anything other than this.....

PU: (Describe yourself here) "Oh about 6 feet tall, brown hair, brown eyes, etc.

I am not sure about that though might be DLV'ing yourself there. Any other ideas or opinions on it??


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:00 pm 
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Way to much going on and to many times for her to loose interest and leave you stranded. This is one of those openers that you could go on for ever about and not make any head way. make it short and sweet.

Abridged version

* She cheated on him what should he do.
* I was just reading that girls cheat more then guys
* You look like your trouble
* Speaking of trouble.....DHV story

thats its. the more she is responding the more times you are going to have to recalibrate your opener. Opener only starts the convo, its not meant to be the convo. just work on Bola (body Language) and tonality and go for it. If you are using a long opener it will not seam natural and you will come of strange and maybe rehearsed. Sarge On!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:10 pm 
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Well like CA said keep the opener short and sweet (usually). What I would probably want to be doing in the opener is also getting info or a feel for what kind a person she (target) is or what she's saying that I think might be interesting to know about her for fun and for your own safety. haha

Example:
PU: "Quick question, I cant stay long its guys night out and I shouldnt even be talking to you but...A buddy of mine just found out his girl was cheating on him and he hasn't confronted her about it yet, should he confront her or just break up with her and not give her a reason?"

Set: "how did he find out she was cheating?" or maybe "Well I think he should at least tell her why he's breaking up with her?"

I would also be paying attention to Body Lang. to see what they're "really" saying.
So in the first example when she says "how did he find out she was cheating?" if she says it in a mischievous/flirty way than you can throw out the "oh no you look like your trouble" line. Then she'll either agree or say something like

HB: No I'm not! why do you say that?
PUA: I'm good at reading people/I saw it in your eyes/etc.
HB: what did you see
then you can go in a multitude of areas from here:
DHV story/games/esp/psychology/etc

I would try to keep it feeling natural. Tap into the dynamics of the interaction. USE THE FORCE. I tend to genuinely be interested in the deeper side of the person I'm talking to and I bring them into my world by giving them a place to explore the deeper aspects of themselves with me.
But it depends on what your into. I got a degree in psychology and sociology because I'm fascinated by the mind and human behavior, so that works for me in interaction. In my experience I have found that I can entertain a group of 4 to 5 women with these psych/soc ideas. The supernatural is also great. Also known as parapsychology. Check it out.

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