You all know the line. I have finally plucked up the guts and delivered it.

The results were startling, for the first minute she thought I was gay, so didnt mind me getting close and doing a bit of kino, then when I told her I wasnt gay. She said it was an awsome pickup line, and she seemed pretty enticed with me.

Need to practice it more.

Only did it because I was dreading using it and wanted to get it over and done with.

Does this one work often? Have to admit, I've been curious to use it.

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Please Hold.

Just use it during a warm up. Never used it but it seems like an awesome opener on any randomer "If I wasn't gay I would totally fall in love with you."

Actually I have a theory on how this opener work:

Basically you allow the target to mistakenly think you're gay, allowing you to disarm her and lock-in with greater ease since you're non-threatening. Then you proceed to do your DHV stuff and attraction building to create that "Oh my god! This is a great guy! If he wasn't gay I'll definitely want him!" feel in her. If you successfully created that feeling in her, and finally reveal you aren't gay, she's going to explode onto you. It's pretty much like stuffing explosives in her and setting off the spark rather than continuously adding fuel to the fire.

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You only have 2 choices; either you cry and accept who you are, or get your ass out there and try to change yourself.

Or you could just say you're gay and if it comes down to it just say "I thought you knew I was joking?"

Hahahaha!! There you have it, I'm so gonna try it out the next time I go out.

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You only have 2 choices; either you cry and accept who you are, or get your ass out there and try to change yourself.

I've never used it as an opener. I think it's meant to be used when she gives you attitude for approaching her group. Let's say you oepna group, then one chick puts up her bitch shield, "Hey, she's not interested in you." You look at her, then say "if I weren't gay, you would so be mine by the end of the night."

It's probably the worst line you can use. Women don't want to sleep with men who have been with other men. They also don't want to sleep with men who are deceptive or lied about their past

It's just an opener..........

I think the OP needs to just come out of the closet now

That is basically what happened. She actually seemed amazed that I had the guts to say that as well. I was expecting her to go mad at me for lying (even though we all know it is only flirting).

However my wing tried it at a different venue and it all went kind of wrong. The target was out with two gay guys, so she tried playing cupid and doing a little hook up. Then after he said he wasnt gay, he used a routine about a gay guy trying it on with him. That didnt go down too well either. I was actually cringing when this all happened.

Just got to get my other wing to use the opener on a target now, then he is re-initiated.

This line should be a newbie mission. But then it would become over used.

I think also you really do need good confidence, and a good frame in order to use it.

It took me ages to pluck up the guts to use it. But when I did use it, my wing who was watching said that my body language was good and strong.

Also it is so easy to kino after effectively delivering it.

I'd agree with you, most importantly play that along as a joke, don't act all too serious about it.

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You only have 2 choices; either you cry and accept who you are, or get your ass out there and try to change yourself.

...Majikal's Comment
I agree with Majikal... But good job!

Oh! Can I make suggestion?

...The Big Promise
As a copywriter (advertiser), it's useful to know that the heart and soul of ANY ad is a big promise. If the big promise (i.e. You and your value as a person) feels "right" to her, then you're going to have a much easier time working with her.

Some Ideas: A big promise doesn't have to be a big penis, a massive muscle figure, etc. A big promise can be your ability to make her laugh or please her amazingly in bed (a big member helps, but it's not entirely necessary).

...Then Again, The Right Technique
But, assuming you've got the big promise nailed (i.e. You're an awesome person), that's when the right techniques come into play. Center the Gay Opener or the Transgender Opener around the Big Promise--You. After five years of observing "what makes people buy"--**ahem**--"tick", I concluded that the best thing you can do for her is "add techniques, influencers, factors, stories, humor" to get her to ACT ON YOUR BIG PENIS... er... PROMISE.

Lol I hope you know I'm joking here.

Let me know if this helps!

I have used this opener plenty of times, it works for me, but only when it comes accross as a CLEAR JOKE!

It happened to me once, that the girl said to me: 'Oh, really, fantastic, my friend is gay too, and he is here as well, let me introduce you...' & I: 'Wow, wow, wow, i was just kidding...!'
I still got to kiss close the girl, no problem.

I told this line to my friends once and the response was so bad.. But then we went, stood at the bar and their were 2 really hot girls. I said to them: ''Hey I just saw you girls standing over their on the dance floor (point)
and I just had to tell you that if I wasn't gay I would SO totally try to pick up on you!''
they:'' OMG hahaha really? Wow thanks! You just made our night!''

After that and they stood on the dancefloor again and thought of some social proof.. I asked them to go on a picture with me posted it on my fb and made it my SPAM picture for a while!

So it DOES really work and besides that.. Its in my opinion one of the BEST ways to get into the flow! Cozz you just CAN'T get rejected!