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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:44 pm 
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So i'm looking for somewhere to sit down and get some lunch at a shopping centre, and notice a small cafe in a secluded part of the mall. I take a seat, read through the menu, and then the waitress comes over.

As I glance up my eyes nearly fall out of my face. Imagine that Italian Supermodel Stereotype we all dream about, well shes just manifested as a waitress and is waiting for my order. I think to myself that this is a true challenge to see whether or not i've learn't anything, but unfortunatly my mind is now completly blank of what to say.

I maintain full eye contact, ask her what the soup of the day is, she mistakingly thinks i've ordered it, I re-iterate that I am asking her what it is, not ordering it, she giggles, and then I just cant think of how to get her talking. She leaves, she returns with the food, and before I can ask her a question she rushes of, okay no problem I tell myself, I now how time to construct a verbal plan of how to get her talking. One problem though, she doesnt come back, instead some other waitress collects the food, and I go and pay the bill at the counter, I missed the damned oppourtunity.

So I need some ways of getting a waitress talking, particulaly a really hot waitress in a short space of time. (I'm going back there for round 2 next week)


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well..next time you go there you can say something like this:
hello the last time was here i really liked the waitress...ah sorry...the food :D .she have to smile to this,and when she ask what you will order you say: aa one waitress..aam sorry something something is happening to me,when i see a beautiful girl i mix up the words :P
or something like this...its not necesserely to go this way ;)
PS.sorry for my bad english ;)


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I think people generally seen put too much importance into these openers.
It cannot be said too much: IT IS JUST A WAY TO START A CONVERSATION.

It doesn't have to be some fancy question you bring up - just say what's seems obvious in the situation

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as easy as an: "wo how long have u been working here? i come here often, but i think this is the first time that i've seen u!, man the restaurant's finally hiring some beautiful people huh!"


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you build up rapport by askin her questions like what does she usually have to eat there? whatever she says, be like i dont really like that.. haha...um hows the blah blah here? cool, i get that.

just be really non-challant about things (dont even let her know ur into her) but, let her know that ur normal with simple questions and conversation. at the end make sure u thank her and leave ur business card there with a little msg and or just right ur number on the her copy of the receipt.


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No.

No No No No No No No.

These girls probably get the "beautiful waitress" line all of the time. Act as if she's just another person, not some italian sex goddess.

When you open, open with something that's harmless. What I've found to work is if you've been there a couple of times, and you've seen her each time, on the third time say
"You know, you're not very nice."
"What, why?"
"I've been here a million times, and I know you know it, but you haven't even asked me my name!" (Mock a hurt look on your face)

That breaks the ice.


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Fuck...

just get to the point bro'

Ask the waitress what she's doing after work
and tap that shit.


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*sigh* Wow...seems like you're getting a lot of people giving you advice that won't get you much further than any other AFC.

I'm not going to tell you what to say, but I will tell you what an AFC would say.

"You're beautiful! How long have you worked here?"
"Oh wow! I wish you would go out with me!"
"Hey gorgeous, how about we *insert something cliche here*?"

You need to do something different to catch her attention. A woman will know within the first 10 minutes of meeting a person if she will sleep with him or not, so your first impression counts. You want to show her that you're NOT interested in her sexually, so she'll wonder what's wrong, and work to correct it...you're basically at that point making the frame yours. Don't convey sexuality until you've built attraction. Build attraction by being interesting. Be interesting by being different. Be different by doing something normal guys wouldn't do (but don't be creepy).

Good luck!


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rogue hero has definitely given the best advice. never tell a woman she's beautiful when you first meet them, if she is beautiful, she hears that all day and thats not a way to be different from all the other afc's that hit on her. anytime you come off as desperate or too into someone you meet, you're gonna blow it. true pua are natural, conversational, interesting and they NEVER come off desperate. the first 10 minutes is key, if you blow it in the beginning, you can pretty much forget it and move on. doesn't sound like you've blown it yet so next time use a good opener, engage her in some funny conversation, throw in a neg or too and take it from there. and don't keep going there by yourself, guys who eat alone continually are creepy.
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*sigh* Wow...seems like you're getting a lot of people giving you advice that won't get you much further than any other AFC.

I'm not going to tell you what to say, but I will tell you what an AFC would say.

"You're beautiful! How long have you worked here?"
"Oh wow! I wish you would go out with me!"
"Hey gorgeous, how about we *insert something cliche here*?"

You need to do something different to catch her attention. A woman will know within the first 10 minutes of meeting a person if she will sleep with him or not, so your first impression counts. You want to show her that you're NOT interested in her sexually, so she'll wonder what's wrong, and work to correct it...you're basically at that point making the frame yours. Don't convey sexuality until you've built attraction. Build attraction by being interesting. Be interesting by being different. Be different by doing something normal guys wouldn't do (but don't be creepy).

Good luck!


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Are you going their by yourself?

If your taking a buddy let him be your wing men. And I bet your thinking "Whoopie why would I need a wing man to get a HB9.5"

I will tell you why use your wing men "Situation/Problem" to get her into a conversation. Remember she is working and doesn't have time to chat it up.

You and your Wing sit down. She comes over to get your order. Most waitress come with the whole smile saying "Hey I am .... What would you like?"

Your wing order's first. Then you order and throw on the end of your order. "Ohh yeah! When your done placing our order could you come back so I can ask you a question."

Now if she comes back with "What is the question?" Thats when you quickly reply with. "Hey Wing, You can tell she didn't color inside the lines" Hit her with a Neg because she couldn't follow your simple instructions. Don't forget to smile and laugh. If she still insist on wanting to her the question. Tell her that your pretty hungry and you don't think you can wait another 10 minutes to eat. Work it because things are not going to go as plan so be flexible.

Now if she takes your order and comes back to the table. Drop this simple conversation opener. "Well me and my wing came to the mall to look for something to give his girlfriend for their anniversy. (Give her a compliment on her hair or jewlery because I know waitress wear special jewlery) I was wondering do you have any good ideas on what to get her?"

Let your wing talk to her to. Yall just go back and forth. Remember your not going to have long to talk so you want to keep the conversation going and what not. This would be a #close of course.

I can't tell you how I would #close because their is no way of telling if she is interested. If she is try getting her to help yall look for something while on her break. Before her break is up ask her to go out with you and your wing's girlfriend on a double date. Girls feel more comfortable around other Girls.

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Rogue heros on the mark. I wait and I've had this discussion with quite a few of the cute servers i work with. First rule of picking up a waitress. NEVER EVER leave your number, you'll never hear back from her. Some girls think its a pussy move, and others are just too shy to make the call. Most of them are the former.
If its slow in the resturant, start a bullshit convo about anything BUT food or the weather. We hear that more than you could imagine. She's bored and talking to guests keeps her from having to do work. bust her balls by tell her to get back to work and shit. then when she drops off (or picks up) take the receipt, tear it in half right in front of her, Write your number on one half hand her the other half and instruct her to do the same and possibly to draw a little picture of herself to remember what she looks like (thanks neil strauss). It'll work if you gamed her right.
If its busy its soooooo much easier. she's super busy, flustered, running her ass off. Say what you can, but don't think its that important that she reacts well, shes too busy to care or notice. At the end of the meal do the same as before. She'll gauge this one all on if she thinks youre cute and charming. Easy enough. If you fail, she wont even remember you in an hour. promise. Nothing to lose


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I have found that when a waitress comes to take your food slap her hand playfully and look her in the eye, "Not until I'm done." bear in mind this has to be done playfully.

If it's a busy night comment that she looks tired.

"You're working really hard, you look tired."

it's a great neg and she'll usually start into why her job sucks. at which point you can start into any material about work or passion about your particular work.


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I just ran one from David D's guest speaker in the Cocky Comedy bit:

"Hi, my friends and I have decided to make this our dining establishment of choice to hang out at all the time. And were interviewing waitresses to see who we want as our waitress of choice every time. What makes you better than all the rest of the ones here?"

Don't give her time to react, just have her try and describe why. With every average answer (i'm friendly, etc.) give the expression on your face that it's a mediocre answer. As she gets more flustered, it gives you more opportunities to talk to her. Run with it from there.


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*sigh* Wow...seems like you're getting a lot of people giving you advice that won't get you much further than any other AFC.

I'm not going to tell you what to say, but I will tell you what an AFC would say.

"You're beautiful! How long have you worked here?"
"Oh wow! I wish you would go out with me!"
"Hey gorgeous, how about we *insert something cliche here*?"

You need to do something different to catch her attention. A woman will know within the first 10 minutes of meeting a person if she will sleep with him or not, so your first impression counts. You want to show her that you're NOT interested in her sexually, so she'll wonder what's wrong, and work to correct it...you're basically at that point making the frame yours. Don't convey sexuality until you've built attraction. Build attraction by being interesting. Be interesting by being different. Be different by doing something normal guys wouldn't do (but don't be creepy).

Good luck!
This is definitely on target.

I find that if you keep them around for a few, neg em about it, then seeing her off (from your table) with something about hurrying on back i usually best.

If she's busy she may come back only for a brief hey here's my number, or you might get into something more.

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This is a page taken from the game

When I see her conning toward us, I immediately engage a buddy across
the table in seemingly deep conversation. I make sure to face my body away from her. When she comes up and asks us what we would like to drink, I ignore her for a few seconds or so. Then I glance in her direction and pretend I am just now seeing her for the very first time. Immediately, I show great interest in her—as if she were a new discovery. I glance quickly at her body, just long enough for her to notice, then turn myself fully around to face her. A big smile and a wink, and the game begins.


HER: What can I get for you?
ZAN: [Ignoring the question] Hello, I haven't seen you around before.
What's your name?
HER: My name is Stephanie. What's yours?
ZAN: I'm Zan. And I will have a gin and tonic. (Big smile)
So far I've broken the ice a bit and, by exchanging names, she has given me
the implicit right to be more familiar with her. So the next time she comes
around, I smile and wink again.
ZAN: You again? Wow, you sure like to hang around us, don't you?
HER: [Laughs] (some stuff)
ZAN: (Some other stuff)
HER: (Some other stuff)
ZAN: (As she is leaving) I bet you'll come back again real soon. I can see
it in your eyes.
HER: (Smiling) Yeah, I can't resist.
Now I have established a cocky funny theme—her wanting to hang around us and that is why she keeps coming back to our table. Of course, she has to
come back to our table: She's the waitress. And when she does, I smile at her and give the other guys a knowing look in front of her as if to say, "See, I was right." All along, I strive to make the interaction come off like I have known her for a long time. This establishes a level of familiarity that usually takes several meetings to build. So now, after a while, I will say something like:

HER: Can I get you another drink?
ZAN: (Smile, wink) You know what? You're kinda cute. I think I'm going to
call you.
HER: You think so, huh? You don't have my number.
ZAN: Why, you're right! Okay, tell me and I will write it down.
HER: [Smiling) Not a good idea. I have a boyfriend.
ZAN: (Pretending to write) Whoa, slow down. I didn't quite catch your
number there. You better repeat it for me. Let's see . . . 555 . . .
HER: (Laughs and rolls her eyes)
The absurdity of this exchange is that there is no way she is going to give me her phone number in front of a bunch of my friends. No girl would. But her digits are not the goal just yet. Now she and I have a rapport, in a manner of speaking. And I've made myself memorable enough that the next night we go there, she'll recognize me. This way, I can walk up, put my arm around her, and continue with my usual "You would make a good girlfriend for me" talk. And since everything is said in a half-joking manner, she doesn't know if I'm really hitting on her or if I'm just fooling around. So when I return:

HER: (Laughing) Oh no! Not you again!
ZAN: Stephanie, my sweet! Hey, listen, sorry I didn't return your call last
night. You know how it is. I'm just a busy guy.
HER: (Playing along) Yeah, I'm really mad about that.
This gets the whole table laughing, including her. And it's back on again for the evening.
Later:

ZAN: You know what, Stephanie. You're a terrible girlfriend. In fact, I can't
even remember the last time we had sex. That's it. We're through.
ZAN: (Pointing to another waitress) She's going to be my new girlfriend.
HER: (Laughing)
ZAN: [Playing with my phone) You are now downgraded from Booty Call
# 1 to Booty Call # 10.
HER: (Laughing) No, please, I'll do anything to make it up to you.
And later still:
ZAN: [Motioning for her to come over and pointing at my knee) Stephanie,
come and sit down. I'll tell you a bedtime story. [Smile, wink]
I have used that last line for years. It is gold.
Some of you guys are probably thinking, "Okay, now what? How do you
transition from funny ball-busting to more serious, romantic, sexual talk?"
It's simple, actually. At some point, I just talk to her quietly alone. Remem-
ber to turn on the bedroom eyes.
ZAN: [No longer cocky funny] Stephanie, do you want me to call you?
HER: You know I have a boyfriend.
ZAN: That's not what I asked. Do you want me to call you?
HER: Tempting, but I can't.
ZAN: Sneak away with me, girl. I'll take you higher up the slop es of Par-
nassus than you have ever been. Etc.


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