By 'like minded' I mean that they know who to talk to and chat up women and know a bit about 'the game'. Anyway, the club is horrible, bad music, full of builder types (It was an O'Neils for all the Brits on here). I'm a confident guy, so approaching isn't a problem, I asked girls opinions on stuff, went in with jokes, went in with negs, my body language was good, there was some touching, I was actually conversing with all the girls...My only problem was that it didn't go any further than that.

Even though the girls were having fun I couldn't get them to stay.

What the f*ck was I doing wrong?

Thing is that I went out the next day and number closed 2 girls and am taking one of them out tonight (She's a 5 to a 6 but I think she's gonna turn out to be filthy so am sticking with it for a bit).

I am not a huge fan of O'Neills can be quite loud, but I am working on projectiing my voice more.

Erm, its hard to gauge what you could be doing wrong, just follow the steps i.e. increase comfort, attraction - DHV, time contraints etc should be ok, keep at it dude.

If she is filth - go for it

It is very loud in there and for some reason most of the girls in there seem to be 'below average intelligence'. I've done the 5 questions routine a few times and they always lose on "what number question was that?". Always. I sometimes think that the verbalised forms of 'pick-up' are too cereberal for the girls in there. You've literally just got to grab old of them and not let them go.

Think I'll just go to the bars in the city where the girls are a bit smarter