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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:54 pm 
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Hi guys,

I guess we all want to become better at meeting new people. If you are like me probably you've read 100s of pick up lines and openers and discovered that knowing them is worthless, if you do not dare to use them.
So why do not we design some program with easy baby steps exercises so that opening becomes something natural in our life?

My goal with this is that without thinking if there is a woman behind or in front of the line on the super market without hesitation we could start a small talk with them, no agenda.
The same with the girl waiting at the same bus stop, the one that is waiting for us to finish using some machine at the gym, standing next to us in the club, etc.

I would like that first we could come up with some exercises to do that and second once we developed the program do our best to follow it, come here share our successes and failures , encourage each other and give some advice.
Is there anybody here who would like to join?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:08 am 
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Hi guys,

I guess we all want to become better at meeting new people. If you are like me probably you've read 100s of pick up lines and openers and discovered that knowing them is worthless, if you do not dare to use them.
So why do not we design some program with easy baby steps exercises so that opening becomes something natural in our life?

My goal with this is that without thinking if there is a woman behind or in front of the line on the super market without hesitation we could start a small talk with them, no agenda.
The same with the girl waiting at the same bus stop, the one that is waiting for us to finish using some machine at the gym, standing next to us in the club, etc.

I would like that first we could come up with some exercises to do that and second once we developed the program do our best to follow it, come here share our successes and failures , encourage each other and give some advice.
Is there anybody here who would like to join?

You need to scout, go shopping at stores, buy nothing though. Look for cute cashiers, then find someone like $10< and buy it and talk to her.

I hate approaching with another woman in the group, or 1 man and 2 females.

IMO small talk is cheap, say something meaningful and sound like your a man in charge. Don't say oh nice weather huh? it sounds stupid talking to a HB8-10 like that.

Say something like, Beauty fades with time, and whats more important in life is x x x(make 3 points)

I will give you one example, like use her smile or personality.

Then say something like, I really like that in a woman, it lasts forever. Etc...



I saw a HB 8 as a bagger at farm fresh.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:17 am 
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go through magazines, model pictures on the internet, etc... pictures of girls. hot girls. 9s and 10s. and find things that are wrong with them. They become less intimidating. Some of these things you can use as a neg. (dont be a dick however.. cocky but funny) I've found this is the most successful way to open with 8s-10s. You have to remember if you are in a club or a bar... its a little bit "sexier" of an environment than a grocery store. That's why we have day game and night game. There aren't really "exercises" that will help you open better besides repetition. Do it over and over and over and over and over... and over again. Our bodies are outdated biological machines programmed for a 50 person society. Where if you approach the wrong girl... you would get beaten or killed or she would talk about you and you would NEVER get laid.... There are over 7 billion people on this planet now. Half of them have vaginas. The best thing you can do is have a few openers ready for each situation and work them. Its like jumping into a cold lake... its alot less painful if you just jump right in. Even the best puas on the planet still get approach anxiety. Its natural brotha. Just ignore it... watch some of Mystery's documentaries and he explains why men have approach anxiety and women get last minute resistance.... Ever get a girl almost completely naked and she stops you? As men, our number one value is to survive. Women's is to replicate. But they want to make SURE that you are the right guy for their children to be raised by. You do the same thing when you think about talking to a girl... "is going up to this girl and talking to her worth the risk of me getting killed?" We call it a game for a reason bro. I'm yet to have a guy swing at me for talking to his girlfriend (had threats made but nobody actually does it unless you get creepy... just politely eject yourself from the set if the boyfriend gets snappy). Treat it like a game and it just becomes alot of fun... Don't think so hard about it.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:28 am 
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I was thinking of something a little bit more structured that requires less effort.

For example:
1st week:
try to make eye contact with everybody you come across and when they give you eye contact back just nod.
At the end of each day report what happened, discoveries, excuses why we chicken out, what could be improved, and give feedback to each other.

2nd week:
The nodding should come completely natural without thinking about it but now instead of nodding we add a "HI".
Again report what happened and see how it can be improved, and if we chicken out find out why and come up with solutions for that.

3rd week:
The same but now adding, "Hi, how are you ?" , or "Hey what's up?"
Again report findings and ways to improve.

4th week:
Same thing but now adding, a comment or a question.
Report, give feedback about the comments we said or the questions we asked.

5th week:
Do exactly the same as what we have been doing but after everything in case the person is a woman we will add 1 compliment or flirty comment.
Again report everything and give each others some feedback.

6th week:
The same but adding asking for the phone number or any type of contact.
And of course report and give feedback about what we have done.

It can be done Monday to Friday's it should not take much of our time or change our daily routines. On weekends or in the night we can return to our normal game strategy and really try to pick up some girls. My objective with this is not to pick up many girls during this exercises but rather to become masters of chit chatting to strangers so that when we see someone that we really like it will seem more natural to us to start talking to them than to avoid the conversation.

I know everybody can try this experiment or something similar on their own, I'm sure it will require from time to time to push ourselves into uncomfortable situations and some other difficulties that can quickly persuade us to stop and continue with our old habits. My guess is that reporting it to someone else will keep us motivated to push ourselves through these obstacles that we might face.

Of course everything about a program like this is completely open to discussion.
So who would like to participate in something like this?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:12 pm 
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go through magazines, model pictures on the internet, etc... pictures of girls. hot girls. 9s and 10s. and find things that are wrong with them. They become less intimidating. Some of these things you can use as a neg. (dont be a dick however.. cocky but funny) I've found this is the most successful way to open with 8s-10s. You have to remember if you are in a club or a bar... its a little bit "sexier" of an environment than a grocery store. That's why we have day game and night game. There aren't really "exercises" that will help you open better besides repetition. Do it over and over and over and over and over... and over again. Our bodies are outdated biological machines programmed for a 50 person society. Where if you approach the wrong girl... you would get beaten or killed or she would talk about you and you would NEVER get laid.... There are over 7 billion people on this planet now. Half of them have vaginas. The best thing you can do is have a few openers ready for each situation and work them. Its like jumping into a cold lake... its alot less painful if you just jump right in. Even the best puas on the planet still get approach anxiety. Its natural brotha. Just ignore it... watch some of Mystery's documentaries and he explains why men have approach anxiety and women get last minute resistance.... Ever get a girl almost completely naked and she stops you? As men, our number one value is to survive. Women's is to replicate. But they want to make SURE that you are the right guy for their children to be raised by. You do the same thing when you think about talking to a girl... "is going up to this girl and talking to her worth the risk of me getting killed?" We call it a game for a reason bro. I'm yet to have a guy swing at me for talking to his girlfriend (had threats made but nobody actually does it unless you get creepy... just politely eject yourself from the set if the boyfriend gets snappy). Treat it like a game and it just becomes alot of fun... Don't think so hard about it.


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Its like jumping into a cold lake... its alot less painful if you just jump right in.
Very good analogy!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:58 pm 
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To my process of becoming good at pick up is much more similar to become good in a sport than to become good at an academic subject, and yet 99% of the teachings that I've seen in the community want to teach us to become good at pick up the same way they teach us in school how to become good at maths. And then they tell us to just go out and practice to become good at it.

Well if you use this approach to become good at any sport and you just participate in competitions and do not train for them, your progress is not only going to be really slow, but you'll also put your health into risk, and of course there is also the chance to become frustrated soon.

Every time you approach someone you like is entering into a competition, you can call it approach anxiety and give this explanation that this fear was wired into us since the days we lived in the caverns, and some others can call it excitement because you are putting yourself in a situation where you'll probably get laid, or maybe is just that you've been told when you were a little kid 1000s times that it is wrong to interrupt people. I'm sure there are more excuses. The only real thing is that your body starts to segregate adrenaline and that does not let you think with the clarity needed. The same happens in a tournament and that is the reason people train so hard to be able to perform good on them.

With these exercises I want it becomes more natural to start a conversation than to not do it whenever a stranger gives us eye contact. So that by the time when the adrenaline rush hits us because we are talking to a hot girl, our mouth would have already said a couple of words.

The purpose is to practice these exercises as much as possible so that whenever you really want to play the game your reactions will help you to achieve your desired results.

Again I want to remark that the exercises and program can be discussed and modified. I made them according to my own experience with different confidence programs that I've personally tried and worked to certain extend.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:48 am 
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was thinking of something a little bit more structured that requires less effort.

For example:
1st week:
try to make eye contact with everybody you come across and when they give you eye contact back just nod.
At the end of each day report what happened, discoveries, excuses why we chicken out, what could be improved, and give feedback to each other.

2nd week:
The nodding should come completely natural without thinking about it but now instead of nodding we add a "HI".
Again report what happened and see how it can be improved, and if we chicken out find out why and come up with solutions for that.

3rd week:
The same but now adding, "Hi, how are you ?" , or "Hey what's up?"
Again report findings and ways to improve.

4th week:
Same thing but now adding, a comment or a question.
Report, give feedback about the comments we said or the questions we asked.

5th week:
Do exactly the same as what we have been doing but after everything in case the person is a woman we will add 1 compliment or flirty comment.
Again report everything and give each others some feedback.

6th week:
The same but adding asking for the phone number or any type of contact.
And of course report and give feedback about what we have done.

It can be done Monday to Friday's it should not take much of our time or change our daily routines. On weekends or in the night we can return to our normal game strategy and really try to pick up some girls. My objective with this is not to pick up many girls during this exercises but rather to become masters of chit chatting to strangers so that when we see someone that we really like it will seem more natural to us to start talking to them than to avoid the conversation.

I know everybody can try this experiment or something similar on their own, I'm sure it will require from time to time to push ourselves into uncomfortable situations and some other difficulties that can quickly persuade us to stop and continue with our old habits. My guess is that reporting it to someone else will keep us motivated to push ourselves through these obstacles that we might face.

Of course everything about a program like this is completely open to discussion.
So who would like to participate in something like this?
There's nothing wrong with breaking it down into progressive sections, but the way it is planned out above just takes way too long. Instead of week 1, week 2, it should be day 1, day 2, etc.

And don't over-think it, which you seem to be doing. Conversation and interpersonal communication should be fluid, and there are many times when you need to be able to trash your plans and preconceived notions and recalibrate or just go with the flow.

It's simple. If you want to be natural, TALK TO EVERYONE, and at every opportunity. If you only target HBs you are placing them on a pedestal, and your speech will be robotic, a cold routine that isn't really you. Plus, nobody can come up with enough openers and conversation topics for every girl and every situation. But if you talk to everybody, the opening and the conversation itself becomes routine, but "routine" as in automatic and without forethought, not something you memorized. Trust me, I know.

Do this: instead of the week 1, week 2 plan, just go out and talk to everyone each day. Put yourself in places and positions to talk to people. If you make a serious daily effort in three weeks you'll be so far beyond what you have planned for six weeks it won't be funny.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:37 am 
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There's nothing wrong with breaking it down into progressive sections, but the way it is planned out above just takes way too long. Instead of week 1, week 2, it should be day 1, day 2, etc.

And don't over-think it, which you seem to be doing. Conversation and interpersonal communication should be fluid, and there are many times when you need to be able to trash your plans and preconceived notions and recalibrate or just go with the flow.

It's simple. If you want to be natural, TALK TO EVERYONE, and at every opportunity. If you only target HBs you are placing them on a pedestal, and your speech will be robotic, a cold routine that isn't really you. Plus, nobody can come up with enough openers and conversation topics for every girl and every situation. But if you talk to everybody, the opening and the conversation itself becomes routine, but "routine" as in automatic and without forethought, not something you memorized. Trust me, I know.

Do this: instead of the week 1, week 2 plan, just go out and talk to everyone each day. Put yourself in places and positions to talk to people. If you make a serious daily effort in three weeks you'll be so far beyond what you have planned for six weeks it won't be funny.
I also think 1 week is a little bit too long, but before I came up with the times I counted how many people I come across during the day and the number is between 15 and 30, because I work most of the time and I live in a small town there is not so many people to practice, and I think that acting in a best case scenario only 60 times different is not enough to change a habit, specially that it requires some energy because you've to put yourself outside of your comfort zone.

My guess is that t once the exercise becomes boring because it is too easy to do, then it is a good time to add the next step, and then depending on the person, and environment the times might change.

About the over thinking you are right, that's why I want that after the: how are you? you must force to say or ask whatever comes to your head at the moment and improvise for that. Next step adding a flirty comment and later asking for the contact is to train specifically for pick up and I would suggest to again improvise as much as possible. Or what do you think ?


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I was thinking of something a little bit more structured that requires less effort.

For example:
1st week:
try to make eye contact with everybody you come across and when they give you eye contact back just nod.
At the end of each day report what happened, discoveries, excuses why we chicken out, what could be improved, and give feedback to each other.

2nd week:
The nodding should come completely natural without thinking about it but now instead of nodding we add a "HI".
Again report what happened and see how it can be improved, and if we chicken out find out why and come up with solutions for that.

3rd week:
The same but now adding, "Hi, how are you ?" , or "Hey what's up?"
Again report findings and ways to improve.

4th week:
Same thing but now adding, a comment or a question.
Report, give feedback about the comments we said or the questions we asked.

5th week:
Do exactly the same as what we have been doing but after everything in case the person is a woman we will add 1 compliment or flirty comment.
Again report everything and give each others some feedback.

6th week:
The same but adding asking for the phone number or any type of contact.
And of course report and give feedback about what we have done.

It can be done Monday to Friday's it should not take much of our time or change our daily routines. On weekends or in the night we can return to our normal game strategy and really try to pick up some girls. My objective with this is not to pick up many girls during this exercises but rather to become masters of chit chatting to strangers so that when we see someone that we really like it will seem more natural to us to start talking to them than to avoid the conversation.

I know everybody can try this experiment or something similar on their own, I'm sure it will require from time to time to push ourselves into uncomfortable situations and some other difficulties that can quickly persuade us to stop and continue with our old habits. My guess is that reporting it to someone else will keep us motivated to push ourselves through these obstacles that we might face.

Of course everything about a program like this is completely open to discussion.
So who would like to participate in something like this?
hell no
why to waste al that energy and all those days,trying to approach a chick
instead of just doing it right now?


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