Hey just wondering in clubs how will you open a group of girls or individual? Music is really loud so will you wave to them and walk up as you spotted eye contact or just follow the 3 second rule - approach once you spotted a group you're interested in?

Thanks for any opinions

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This has been covered a lot on the forum. I'm sure you can find more answers than what I'll tell you if you were to search around.

You can open them in a variety of ways. If she is alone you can open her with something direct, indirect, situational, non-verbal, etc. You can do the same things if she is in a group ultimately as well. Which one you use is really dependent on you, your comfort level with these types of openers, and your present abilities with the game.

If in a group I'd say indirect is a nice way to go cause you can involve the group, disarm them, and have a better chance with the girl as oppose to going direct. However, some people aren't good with doing indirect openers and stacking material to keep the whole group interested... It just depends on what you are comfortable with and what you have gotten down up to this point.

As far as it being LOUD...I will tell you the LOUDER the club the HOTTER the women. Hot women like loud clubs cause it makes it harder for the general public to hit on them.

Basically, learn to project your voice from your diaphram much like a singer would do. You can talk over the music almost all the time. Just project your voice, don't yell though. There is a difference. A good way to practice this is to fill your lungs full of air before you speak, and practice your openers from across the biggest room you have access to into a tape recorder.

You may also have to get closer to open them... If really loud you may need to use a non-verbal opener to get her attention, and just play the lean back and forth game to talk when you get closer. Lots of ways to do it!

At first as far as the 3 second rule, it is from when you notice the set you go. When you see them you need to be moving toward them, period. The 3 second rule is obviously designed to get you to fight your natural reluctance to approach by giving your brain less time to "think" and you to just "react."

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Direct works, and I suppose in the PUA books you can find a lot of approaches.

I'm personally a fan of creative openers in clubs. Lotta guys there telling her the same "you so hottt!" line, so when you do something that they totally don't expect, I find it throws them off base and gets them talking out of interest.

As far as what to use that's creative,
- Bringing a powerful laser pointer and shining it at a group of girls randomly until they eventually figure out who it is.
- Dropping written notes with humor on them
- Wearing a slightly nerdy shirt that resonates with a lot of people (I got a lot of openers out of a shirt that said "sex, drugs, and particle physics" t-shirt)
- Whatever you can craft up..

I think before guys get confident and before they've tried stuff, it seems very nerve-wrecking to open. But I think once a dude gets use to it, it becomes fun to try different things and becomes part of the night's entertainment.

Wow thanks for the advice guys! Clubs are really challenging places to open I feel. Will read up and see what I can use

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