A couple days ago I was at the gym working out. There was a HB8 that stared at me as I walked over to her area. She kept staring at me and I could see her eyes following me whenever I left and came back to the area.

Our eyes met quite a few times, with me breaking eye contact everytime(I know, I know...) As I left we made eye contact for about 2-3 seconds as I was walking away, she was definitely eye fucking me.

I wanted to talk to her, but I was a sweaty pig and in the middle of an intense workout and a little bitch. Biggest reason being mostly the latter.

How do others open at the gym? I'm in pretty good shape(which probably had a bit to do with her checking me out in the first place) and am knowledgable about fitness so critiquing her would probably be the most natural way to open up, don't know where I would go from there though.

I say things like...

-What are you training for?
then she will say being healthy etc.. or training for ...
--then you can neg at this point---
blah blah blah get her going,
then comment on her gym clothes, say girls have such good gym wear et..

further on...

get her to tense her muscles then get her to do yours etc... general chat, then hey, wanna grab a drink etc....

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Law of Attraction

First fix the problem: it isn't not having an opening line, it's your self confidence and/or taking things, like every word you may or not say, too seriously.

She's half-dressed (in exercise wear as compared to winter street clothes) and eye fucking you in public, but you were afraid to make eye contact or speak to her. You even found an excuse, "being a sweaty pig," when that didn't seem to bother her one bit....

I work out a lot and I've found that an intense work out (within limits of course, there's no sense looking like a d-bag and screaming on every rep) attracts athletically-minded women. Not all of these women I am interested in, but the worst thing you can do is ignore them.

Some of the women in a gym are there because they are working on physical imperfections, real or imagined, and they can be very touchy about them. Ignoring that type of woman enforces their already negative self image and they can consider such a thing as an insult...after all, they were making the effort and taking a chance to signal interest to you, and you in effect told them "no way." There could also be a social component to the rejection because gyms are often big, open spaces with lots of mirrors around, and she could think that everyone saw you reject her - multiple times. The other type of women who throws IOIs at the gym is often a high-value confident woman looking for a physically fit male to possibly fulfill the role of sexual partner, but you'll never know which type you are dealing with until you talk to them.

This. All of this.

Just ask her for a spot. This is what I do. Next time you see her checking you out, just walk up to her and say something like "Hey, would you mind spotting me for a sec? My health insurance lapsed today". Its likely she will oblige, and then you can start a routine on her after you finish the set and you're now acquainted.

Easy.

does a physical body really matter when you work out at a gym in order to attract women?

^^^ It can. Shows that you work out, your an alpha male if you have a strong physically fit body. Going back to pre historic ages, the fittest and strongest were usually in charge. Not saying the mind etc.. has a lot to do with it. But back in the day when we were first getting programmed. The strongest warrior would lead.

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I've posted in a couple threads about gym approaching. I use indirect rules when there's no eye contact. When there is or it's a warm approach (I've opened some of the girls that work there who check me in who are all at least 9's) I've opened with some of these:

-"Hey how do you focus when you're playing with your ipod/staring at me/spacing out?"
-"Hey you can't just stare at me because i'm hot/handsome/buff!" (usually gets a few laughs)
-"You look really focused, what do you think about when you workout?" (This implies I know about weightlifting and am looking for tips on how to focus, an common issue for athletes/people who exercise often)

*If she's doing a unique exercise:
-"Whoa that's a pretty crazy workout, where did you learn that?"

*If she's doing a sport-related exercise (like platform jumping, agility exercises, jump rope)
-"Hey do you play volleyball/basketball/soccer/boxing?" If you guess right or close youre usually in no problem. If she says no i usually lead into a mini-story; 'oh I have a friend who plays (sport) and she says thats a great exercise for your stamina/agility/reactions/jumping etc etc.

*If she's taking a break from a unique exercise or unique piece of equipment:
"That (machine/workout) is tough huh?" (used this on a girl using the "Gravitron" which is assisted pull-ups)

Just remember some girls are really bitchy/defensive at the gym (at least the 9's/10's) because they're in their tight yoga pants, cut off shirt and they KNOW why you're talking to them. That's why I emphasize indirect body language. Don't walk straight up to her while she's on a machine and look like a dork. I usually talk from the side. Never stare at her ass like every desperate loser at the gym. With the 10's, I usually ignore them completely, use alpha body language while walking right in front of them. This has led to some eye contact moments later

If they look busy, don't open. Atleast that's my rule. I don't like when people fuk with my workout so I expect others to be the same.

With that said, I generally don't hit on chicks at the gym, but I have one time.

This is the one I used and worked.

"You gonna stare at my butt the whole time without saying Hi?" said with a smile ofcourse. She kinda blushed and defended herself. I didn't close then but did get her to eat some subway with me two weeks later when I saw her at the gym again.

Something like, "It's okay to say Hi" are generally solid openers. Simple, to the point, and not cheesy what so ever. Work well in all avenues of life.

Actually, now that I think about it. I've seen hotties next to weights I wanted to use and asked them, "are you using this weight?" and both times they said, "No I'm not quite ready for the weights yet (laughing)". I guess if I would have thought about it then it would have been a good set to take on had I not been in the zone lol.

Yeah, you'd be surprised what kind of convo opportunities arise when you are being natural and not putting pressure on the opener. If she's caught you staring at the vibe will be all bad. If you walk up about to say something and wuss out the vibe will be all bad.

One piece of advice from Strauss I adhere to is : Be the exception to the rule.

Example: I had mid-terms all last week, now on spring break and was exhausted. I function horribly when im tired but tried an experiment in the gym that applies to Strauss' rule. I go at prime time where there's a good # of 9's and 10's in the gym. Instead of gawking and sneaking looks at them like every other guy there I show them no attention (at first). I walk by them like they're not even there. I don't look at them at all for a few minutes.

For some of these girls, that gets to them. They're in their tightest outfits doing every leg machine in there but for some reason this one guy (ME) isn't giving them a single look! Now i'm an attractive guy, I know because it's told to me by attractive women in my circle or who i've dated, so I get looks often from 7s, 8s and some 9s off the bat, but this can work with anyone. Have that total ALPHA attitude like this girl is completely non-threatening to you!

Anyways, I'd say 80-90% of the HBs I did this to ended up repeatedly giving me legit eye contact the whole time I was there! This is usually when I return eye contact and smile and they almost always smile back, this EXUDES confidence! You can now open them up easily (my fave at this point is cocky&funny or my 'hi' opener).

Reading all this there is good advice but not many openers.

I had a similar situation,

I was on an excercise bike when I saw this girl walk into the room (walls made of mirrors) she had quite a bit of weight (I don't go for them out of insecurity, I actually prefer girls with a bit of meat them to stick insects). She started on a cross trainer for a while, probably about 15 mins.

Then she came and took the excercise bike right next to me (it was the only free one). After about 10 mins or so I notice she is glancing at me more and more (I can see in the mirrors). Shes also getting redder and redder in the face and slowing down. I havent slowed or gone red or broken a sweat or anything (I'm very physically fit)

I wanted to start talking to her before she left but I didn't have the confidence and I didn't know what to say. Eventually she couldn't go on and left.



What should I have opened and followed up with?