Hey guys, Ive been having this problem a lot. I would approach and I'll body rock, false time constraint, neg, but I would still get a reaction of "this guy totally wants me" off 50 percent of sets.. I always smile and have good energy. So I'm a bit confused here to be honest. Also with more direct openers like, " my friends are being so boring right now. I hope you guys are fun , or I'll have to bash my head against a wall till i pass out!", the girl will actually say, no im not fun/friendly... obvious blow off. Basically I'm getting blown out before I even get started with about half my sets. Is more approaches the resolution to this problem?

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seems like your being too direct. but also you're DLVing urself by telling sets that the friends who u came with are boring, a cool guy never says anything bad about their friends. best to be indirect, something situational or about an opinion.

I see where your coming from there.. but it would be the same problem with indirect.. I'd be asking an opinion with good body language etc, and still they would "see right through me" you might say.

lame way to open. Don't talk shit about your friend. Your automatically DLVing them and yourself.

I don't know, this opener could work with the right two set and an extra chair.

I'm gonna go out and try this with a joking manner. Sit right down with confidence and a joking manner and say "man, I hope to god you two are fun, my friends are pissing me off"

From there you can lead into an opinion opener about a friend that just broke up with his gal. Eventually if things go well you can lead them back to your friend.

Yes this is not perfect, but it has some potential to work if done right.

I am also having this problem. For example, last night I went to a lounge...it was very loud. I smiled, generated some laughs, but they were totally on to the fact that I was interested. How can I communicate in a loud bar without leaning in or screaming at the top of my lungs, and without telegraphing interest?

YES FO! Someone gets what I mean! So far the only thing I've been doing when verbal just won't work , is dancefloor game. I know a lot of guys say this is bad. However if your just lookin for a quick shift on the floor then it tends to work around 50-60 % of the time.. But I still want to deal with this opening problem.