I've come from a place of total failure with women, and general social ineptness. It was so bad that if I even saw a somewhat attractive woman walking in my direction I would turn the other way with my heart pounding out of my neck and frozen tensed up. My social phobia with women was one of the most extreme you could imagine. I was a hopless case. I couldn't see a way out, but needed to find a way out. So I did.

First off let me say that I don't care if a chick rejects me, you have no idea how much I don't care if she rejects me... It's the multiple sets going sour that REALLY fuck with me, it's multiple sets in a row that don't hook, or that give me lousy or brief responses that bring me down. That's not just rejection, that's a negative pattern, and I can't stand negative patterns.

Anyway, I've gotten myself to a point where I can actually approach in field. I've done hundreds of approaches. (indirect, scripted) I've approached proper 10's, multiple sets, and had some very good interactions, I had gotten my AA to a point where it was just like I had homework to do that I didn't feel like getting to right away. But recently, the process has become pretty sticky once again. And a stressfull daily rollercoaster ride. I still get paralyzing approach anxiety again, but I find a way to wiggle my way through it.

I will start a day fucking scared, afraid to approach even a fat old lady, but I do it! Then approach another and another, I free myself up a bit, then I can approach attractive girls. Cool! Then encounter some more resistance, more anxiety, FUCK! So hard to approach again... find someone to approach. Approach ANYONE, even PAY someone to talk to in this paralyzed state. Find some old lady... ok, she's now weirded out, cause I'm obviously nervous and talking to her. This fucks with my mind. Seek more people to approach anyone will do, approach, approach, approach. string a few good interactions together in a row... BOOM!!! FINALLY I HIT STRIDE!!! I'm FREE, I CAN APPROACH THE HOTTEST CHICKS IN THE ENTIRE WORLD WITH EASE!!! ANYONE WITH EASE AND SUCCESSFULLY!!!!.....

The very next day... Same shitfucked rollercoaster ride all over again. Forcing myself to wiggle through various stages of approach anxiety paralysis. It is depressing it's deflating. And that fucks with my ability to approach and open properly and effectivly. If the reactions of the women turn out not good, this further screws with me, messes with my attitude, wrecks my approaches, and it's a vicious cycle. Not only am I not progressing because of this, but I feel as though I've backslid into a fear of approaching. Before I could destroy a set, totally engage and entertain them. Now I just feel like crap, depressed, don't want to do it. I've been doing "Rules of the Game" I'm stuck on Day 13, and I've just been approaching daily to fill in the blanks.. no progress happening on any level. Just approaching over and over and over.

I've worked too hard at this, I've worked harder at this than I've ever worked at anything in my entire life. I cannot get stuck at this point. I feel stuck, and not progressing. What do I do? Take a break to reset and reboot, work harder? What? I'll do anything, to get passed this stuck phase!

I think we are in the same boat, when the inner game is at state. I didn't approach as much as you, since i realized that it wouldn't matter if i don't man myself up by doing my work which is studying.

You won't believe me but i was thinking about girls all the time(am now too) and i tried to focus and see where am i doing wrong...

When i started doing my job, being responsible i got into state of pure confidence. I didn't care who or what would anyone say about me, even my parents, since i knew who i am and what i want in life.

Everyone talks : Set a goal , do something, discipline , how to achieve success etc.
But nobody will tell you how hard it is for some people to set the RIGHT goals.

I realized that i had lied to myself about my goals ,and that was the main reason for my unhappiness. Now after few fails i know what i must do to be happy and where to improve.
Your problem will not be solved by more approaching. Learn from that experience and calm down for few days/weeks/weekends , just settle down, do something else, your hobby , work w/e. Set your mind free and realize where you were doing wrong, laugh about it , learn from it and GET EM TIGER !!!

mate, approaching girls is one small step in the whole pickup scene. getting a phone number, a kiss, a date or a screw is something completely different. you've mentioned that you have mastered AA to some extent but im just intrigued to find out just how far you've gotten with these birds that you've approached? if you couldn't turn them into any of the scenarios i have mentioned then threes something deeper going on and you need to perhaps work on your inner game. trust me i need to do this shit too because im on that same shoe as you but im tackling this one after another

Seriously you guys I think this is a major problem in the community. When I read stuff like this it makes me sad because if you ask me this is like trying to learn to fly before you can even walk. I suggest taking it easy on learning pickup and first just learn to be socially comfortable. Going up to old ladies and trying to talk to just everyone is way over the top. How the hell are you supposed to seduce a woman when you can't comfortably talk to a stranger. Take a break from pickup and focus on building a social circle. The more people you approach the more uncomfortable you're going to become. Eventually you'll turn into one of these robotic PUA's. You end up going out picking up girls and then when the routines are over and you're expected to just naturally socialize you get uncomfortable and freeze up all over again. If you ask me getting good at pickup is 50% natural social development and 50% pickup. You want to become naturally seductive not a robot.


I really really recommend LoveSystems social circle mastery http://www.puame.ca
this'll really help you with understanding natural game and natural social development.

I definately know where you're coming from.

Here's one thing that might help. When you go out, be doing something other than soley sarging women. If you are only going out to talk to women for the sake of talking to women it puts alot more pressure on the interaction. If you went out to do specific things like jog, a walk or shopping etc etc then talk to women when the oppurtunity it will make you a little more at ease.

Also, if you are doing the same thing over and over (you didnt specify) then do something different. Try direct and indirect, fluff talk and different conversation dynamics to experience different levels of success and rejection will give you more solid game when you go up to the next level.

Kudos for having the balls to go out but if you're arent improving you need to figure out your sticking points and eliminate them, then build on your strengths that work. If you apply this there is no way you can fail.

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