I'm what you consider the "nice guy" around girls and even though I logically understand that's not what I should act like I just seem to naturally give all my power away to them almost like they have a spell casted on me. This is the main reason why I got into pickup was because I want to be natural around them. I can talk to girls but it is usually just strictly professional interview type questions and it got to the point where I naturally put girls on a pedestal even when I have no interest in them. If you want to actually start becoming good with woman, what can you do to get over this without making yourself look like a creep on the first few approaches?

This is an inner game issue and not a technique issue. I would start with David DeAngelo's various and encompassing material. In my opinion he is the best guy in the game dealing with inner game stuff and ive read and listened to about everyone in the game.

Nice guy is a state of mind. Unfortunately Inner game is the most difficult to change. Speaking as a former and occasionally relapsing "nice guy" you have to just break out of your shell.

Experiment with being a total asshole to everyone you meet, just a giant dick, completely self centered and oblivious to other people. Then scale it back and try to find the point where you are confident and nice, but assertive at the same time. When you get a feeling of the asshole personality you begin to understand what they are capable. People may not like you, but just keep going with it until you can find a balance. *** Only do this to people who you will not see again. People at bars, out and about, etc... Otherwise people who you see constantly will begin to resent you harshly.

Use this technique as a stepping stone to become a better you. Don't remain an asshole after you understand it doesn't work

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B.Stinson

First let me say, I don't reckon woman will be seeing you as a "nice guy" SPAM, nice guys make them feel good, make them laugh, see them as someone they can learn from and look up to.

Nice guys do not make them feel uncomfortable with interview style questions and small talk.

I think this nice guy stuff is banned around too much by guys who don't understand what women want and are trying to justify their slanted world view.

You do not need to see this as you having to become an arsehole to get women to like you but you do need to man up.