Hey guys. Did a lot of thinking today, and had an idea for a possible opener. Now, it's a bit different and hasn't been field tested, just thought I'd share and leave this open to opinion.

This is more designed for a girl that is surrounded by men who are, obviously, trying to pick her up (although I suppose it can be used in other situations).

Approach as normal, and then say:

"I have a couple of girls and some mates waiting for me to get the party started, so I'll be blunt.' *place piece of paper in her hand* "I know you'll shoot these guys down inevitably. Call* me when you want to have fun with a real man.

After the opener, immediately turn and walk away.

* You can leave your number on the piece of paper, address to another club etc. Whatever you feel is the best option.

I know in traditional openers, you don't generally DHV, you are merely trying to engage conversation with the target(s)/group, and you generally want the girl to give you her number, not yours. That not withstanding, this opener is filled with DHV spikes, such as:

1) Showing preselection ("...couple of girls")
2) You are the leader of men ("...mates waiting for me to get the party started")
3) You are fun
4) You have confidence and are ballsy,
5) And you have initiated kino right off the bat

It'll create a sense of "Who was that guy? Where did he go?" if done right.

Opinions?

-Kurto.

Anyway, if you ask my opinion.

Giving the number and just go away and wait for here to show up could be succesfull. But I think it might go another way around. As I view the whole thing, it seems like you give a girl an option. She can contact you and is quite sure she can play around with you (option 1). On the other hand, she just can do whatever she want and meet up the whole evening with other guys and just don't contact you at all (option 2).

And as we know, woman are unpredictable. So yes, it could work if she likes you 'at the first sight'. But if she's going out with friends, I think the girl will just stay with here friends and feel no need to contact you. Cause you are giving her an option to 'play' with you, but she has to go away/ change her planes/leave her friends. So she can just stay there an meet up some other guys instead.

You say a lot in your opener that's succesfull, as you made the summary. But you don't have the time to make her comfort with you, to feel her attracted to you. It seems like you're just saying *wanne play, come over*.

Ok, this might be succesfull, i'm not saying that this set is screwing up everything. But I'll suppose you have a higher succesrate if try to make her comfort, feel good with you, and give her the time to feel attracted to you. Also, the men should be the leader. The whole thing depends on what choice she's making, you don't have any control on that.

Anyway, as I said, my opinion

Fair call, I understand what you're saying. There is the potential for success, admittedly, and the potential for it to blow out.

I think it'd work on the basis that you come over as being alpha, confident and obviously chasing after what you want. Basically, come over with a presence of "I know you want me" and vibe that to her, so she feels that you've got you shit down and that you're the catch, you know?

Like I said, just an idea. Could be turned into a routine I suppose. Open, DHV a bit and then leave. I think the key to it would be the turning your back and leaving, as it shows that you're willing to leave and loose her, so she feels like she needs to win you over.