So every year I go to aconvention in Vegas and a company invites me to their VIP party. They hire about 50 models to work the event that are all about hb9-10. Previous years I have had no luck with my standard game. This year I am going prepared. I plan on doing alot of negs but one in particular I thought of as an opener, but it might be too mean.
I walk up to the first girl I see and tell he I just arrived and ask if she could point out a girl who is smart, has a good personality and is fun to talk too. Maybe then proceed to say something about it's the same every year with these events and dumb girls etc ...
Thoughts guys?

First off that can come off as condescending. Secondly you don't need to neg them. Game them like any other girl. Also you may want to lay off the negs, if you are coming up with negs like that. And when it comes to negs use as needed. Just because a girl is hot in no way means you need you automatically neg her.

Are you sure that's good advice ? I tend to disagree.

In a sense they are hired guns,aren't they ?

I think that opener is good but than again ANY opener is good with the proper delivery.

i am sure thats good advice

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I agree with Jarupa on the sense that negs are not always needed. My understanding of them are to bring girls down off their pedastools. not all extremely beautiful girls act the same. Most are granted but not all. Just give a tight opener and do what you should always be doing. Play the sets, take a pawn with you if you have a great female friend in mind. most girls will jump at the chance to get out and have fun. then neg em if you need to. Just watch how things flow. You need to worry less about what your saying and watch how you are saying it.

To me it sounds as if you wanted to come off as a sarcastic funny.. and ended up sounding like snob. you could make it a little more subtle.


EX: walk up to a group and say (Lak na De'Les Tierra) try and make it sound exotic. nod and walk by to go order a drink. *note it doesnt mean anything. But it has worked for me in the past. I call it a soft open. Usually someone in the group will approah me to ask the meaning. I tell them I'm druidic which i am so no lie there and then say it means something smooth like May the gods bless your your circle. indicating the group i passed. girls go gaga over it sometimes. then i just say You guys look like your having a good time wanna hear something wierd. they always say yeah so i approah the group and let the person who stopped me introduce me. and go into the Do you belive in spells routine.

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Yup. He will do a far better job gaming the GIRL than her LOOKS.
What does that have to do with anything? They are no different than from any other girl. So what if they are hired models. If they NEED to be neg, neg, other wise don't.
In theory. Word choice also matters to a degree.

Maybe this can provide some insight how to approach models, it's short vid but the pointers are proper:

http://www.askmen.com/video/dating/1207 ... video.html

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My whole purpose to do a neg was to be different than all the other smucks hitting on them

I understand that. Which is why I said to game her as a person and not her looks. She is use to guys gaming her looks but not so much her as a person.

''your a model? cute. Let me guess... hand model? You have nice hands.''
Then grab them and say ''ew theyre sweaty or something''
Make sure u smile

that's not a neg, it's rude. If you insist on a neg opener, why not make it really subtle, and say something along the lines of "hey so why are you here?" and deliver it as if you are generally curious and haven't even noticed she's a model.

But seriously, drop the negs all together if you can.

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