Hey guys,
I advanced pretty well (can talk for 10 to 20 minutes,a few number closes here and here) but i have a problem with opening usually when i am running the story for example:
Me:Is it ok for girls to snoop
She:No,why?
Me:The only reason i ask blah blah
She:I don`t care/Fuck Off/Leave me alone
I tried many different openers,and half of the approaches result in this.
I do body rocking perfectly (sometimes i do it too hard),i say the story while feeling the emotions(actually faking them) and i speak slow.Why is this happening?

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you could try being direct.or if you'd like to go more of an indirect get a more intriguing story

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Hey, you should just try being honest and direct during the day, girls seem to appreciate it much more, and you find out much faster if she is interested or not,

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this thread might help you, if you're up for the challenge

your stories are your main problem.
Look when you approach it has to look natural, things need to move in a sequence. When i go into sets, i dont even think of the opener, i go in and roll with whatever comes to my mind. In the begning i used to force myself into approaching without prepared material and soon i was a machine and that gets anywhere and can game freestyle.
You need to have waypoints. Like i am going to open, when they are comfortable, i would break rapport and qualify(if you are doing day game) and go for the number. You want to build conversation on the spot.
Here is one of my approach
a girl standing with a beautiful handbag
me. Hey, i was just passing by as i saw your bag, its really so stylish.(comfort)
Her. Thanks, its special to me as my dad gifted me.
Me. Amazing, i mean, your dad must love you a lot for he gifted you such a rare and stylish bag, its the first time i saw that kind of bag in this city, and you must love your dad too as u seem to value this gift a lot.(a kind of cold read, building more comfort)
her. Yeah, i love my dad, he is so sweet and caring, we are very close.
Me. (taking a step back) "i would have to leave as i have to do some work. Nice meeting you (breaking rapport) are you from this city?(qualifiying)"
her. Yes (she qualifies)
me. Great, we should defintaely meet up again.
Her. Sure, i would love to (smiling)
i take out my cell and give it to her, she writes her number and we meet up at night where i seal the deal

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I may not be that good at game but all i know is i have gotten numbers from girls at the mall or just outside at subway stations or downtown areas just by being direct. Girls seem to know always know why you're there talking to them in the first place so go direct and you cant go wrong. I have picked up girls by complementing them on their ass and had a convo on what type i like and what type they like lawl. I think its not what you say but how you say it and if you look natural saying it. BTW important note here is that I have never been told to go away or fuck off yet. The most i get is a smile and "im sorry but i have a bf"

Also dont be too direct like me. Maybe it works for me because of my personality or what so but the main point is dont over think and just be direct with what you think.

unless youre brad pitt

its a stupid opener

use another opener, every1 has their own favourite opener that always work in almost every situation...

try Do I look like gay opener, it best because it give false disqualifier and make her lowering her shield...mix it with a little story....

or maybe u can try situational opener like asking 4 direction and then continue with ur canned routine

My analogy of Direct Game vs Indirect Game.

Direct Game is going through the front door. This type is more effective when doing day game because people usually have shit to do, places to go, etc.,... They want you to get to the point.

Indirect Game is going through the window. This type of game takes more "skill" (does not mean better pick up or more confidence, just means you got more shit up your sleeve). This works better at the club or bars, where people are trying to kill time, have fun, shoot the shit. So they really want to play games.

So yes, I am not a purist but these days, where we live in a society where we need to be more adaptive, who is? Even martial arts, you can't with a world title with just a black belt 3rd degree in karate or whatever, you are still gonna lose to a fighter who does boxing AND bjj, because you might kick his ass on standup, but he is able to take you down and fight you at the floor.

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"She:I don`t care/Fuck Off/Leave me alone" lol don't worry brother everyone on this forum has been there trust me!

There nothing wrong with your line btw. Maybe your just introducing it at the wrong time. Like when your listening to music waiting for the drop and it comes in too early. Try build a little rapport first and when it feels good then ask the chicks about their opinions on personal matters.

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