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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:03 am 
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Alright boyos. First off, my credentials. I've spent the last 6 years sarging in clubs. I've spent the last 4 years learning stuff from all the PUA masters, like Mystery, Style, DeAngelo, Cajun, and Tyler Durgen. What I post is sum of all my experiences from trial and error and stuff I've learned from the masters which has helped me.

First off: A few concepts you should know.
There's tons of PUAs selling their stuff, as the holy grail of pick up. The truth is, there is no holy grail. The hard truth is this is a numbers game. The more you approach, the more you close. Period. Even master PUAs get shot down on a regular basis. If some PUA tells you he's laid 100 girls, it's only because he's been shot down 10000 times to get those 100 lays. So the rule is the more you meet, the more you close.

Second: There is no holy grail of pick up. Most dudes look for the "master" tip, that will suddenly term them into a master PUA. It doesn't exist.
Picking up total strangers and getting them into bed is hard. If it were easy, you wouldn't be reading this, you'd be nailing that hot receptionist you have a crush on. Being a successful PUA means wrapping your head around a lot of different concepts, and skills. The only way to get better is by sticking with it, and constantly improving on your skills. There are tons of "systems" out there. Some preach natural game as the holy grail. Others preach routines. For my experience, the truth is most guys need both. Sometimes I need natural game, other times I need canned shit. The more you learn, the better.

Third: Go where the woman are. This means clubs and bars. Playing call of duty all night won't get you laid. If you wanna get good, get off the couch. Next, woman aren't just at bars and clubs. Think of pick up in terms of money. Wouldn't you rather have money coming in from not only your job, but also from stocks, from real estate, and other deals?
So don't just limit your sources of women to just clubs. Take a class, build up your social circles, join an online dating site. The more sources of meeting women you have, the better your odds of closing.


Fundamentals.
Being a good opener is very important. Without spark, there is no fire. However, opening is hard. Am I right? If it were easy you'd be doing it all the time. Unfortunately our friend AA gets in the way. Here's how to beat AA forever.

The next time you go out, only focus on opening. Get your best opener, and just open. That's your only goal. You don't need to escalate, or number close. In fact, if you run out of things to say, or if things get the slightest bit awkward, just excuse yourself. All you need to do is open. With no pressure to take the conversation anywhere, you're much more likely to approach, because there is no failure... right? She can't reject you because you're not trying to close her. Do this for a few nights, and quickly something clicks in your brain; Opening is easy.

Don’t worry about your opener. Focus on opening, not the “quality” of your opener. The truth a girl isn’t going to reject you, or get with you based on the “strength” of your opener.
You can open with ANYTHING. Have you ever seen that show the Keys to the VIP? Sometimes the players have to open with an insult. And what happens? The guys usually turn it around and get the digits. Think about that. If you can open with an INSULT and still get numbers, then you don’t need a perfect opener. Just open. Even if you think the opener is sub-par, use it anyway. It’ll probably work.
The only exception is an opener that might come across as threatening. Don’t use anything that the girl can take as threatening her safety.


Most guys don't know what to do once they run their opener.
CONCEPT: When you open, you have to be willing to keep the conversation going. Don't expect the girl to carry the conversation. Why would a girl want to keep talking to you when you haven’t shown any value? To her, there’s no difference between you and every other boring guy.
Tyler Durgen says you have to be willing to do 90% of the talking when you first open. This is true.


Intangibles: Fellas, most guys suck at picking up girls. Go into the head of a girl for a second. Pretend you're a girl at a night club, and a strange guy approaches you and begins talking. She doesn't know you. This guy could be potentially be the love of her life, boring, or worse a stalker.

Thus we hit the bitch shield. It's her way of screening the losers from the winners. Just about all girls have it. So, when you first engage her, and she seems a bit standoffish, don't just give up. It's just her bitch shield kicking it. Once you demonstrate some value, then the shield comes down piece by piece in till she yours. So, if you give up too soon, then her bitch shield worked. She just screened another loser that gives up too easy. Hang in there.

Body Language:
IMPORTANT: The delivery of the opener, is more important than the opener itself. I’ll repeat this because this is lost on most guys. The delivery of the opener, is more important than the opener itself.
Your body language says loads about you. LOADS!!!!
You could have the best opener on the world, however, if your body language sucks, that's all she'll hear.

Think guys like Brad Pitt or George Clooney from Oceans 11. What does their body language tell you about them? Confident. Alpha. Masters of their universe. Imagine their body language when delivering an opener.

Now think of the 40 year old virgin. What does his body language look like?

POINT is: Your body language is often more important then what you're saying. Ask yourself, “What is my current body language telling others about me right now.” If it’s negative, immediately change your body language so that it's alpha.
Ask yourself, “how does a confident man speak?” Slow down when you speak. Pretty soon it will be come second nature.



I hope some of this stuff helps. Good luck. I'll post more down the road.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:32 pm 
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Hey.. I am new to all this PUA training.. before last month I never even knew the concept of openers, escalation, and closing with women. For a very long time now I believed it was more to do with looks and money but PUA has opened my eyes and I think what you have written is brilliant. I would love to pick your brain and bounce some ideas etc off of you. PM me or add me on FB.. Daniel Larusso McKnight.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:14 pm 
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Great post man, I agree with everything you said!

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Very nice. Confidence is at least 70% of success. And i like the "the more you practice the more you get" concept. Nice.


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