Hey everyone,
I'm new to this forum and world, but I know a alot about it. I have a few friends who are in the game for a long time and advised me to go in. There is this girl I like in my school, but I'm not sure how to talk to her. Btw we know each other already and are kind of hi bye friends nothing more. I asked a PUA friend for some advise and he told me to ignore her in the classess we're together and always talk to people in class but never talk to her. He said this would be good because girls like her are used to so much attention and it will piss her off that im just ignoring her, and it will make her work to get my attention. He said I should act like im the prize, that she needs to work hard to earn. So i listened to his advice, and pretty much ignored her questions in class and her. I think his advice worked because she actually started talking to me and making jokes. My question is, how should I continue from this point, what should I do now?

First of all it's good you are trying at least as most guys would just give up so a plus for that. Your friend whom you say is a PUA is kind of misguided and a beginner and tried to explain you something he misunderstood and therefore told you the wrong thing. In reality ignoring the girl is the wrong thing to do. Your goal should not be to ignore the girl but rather to have fun and talk to other people and not think about this girl. Meaning you should only talk to this girl if she shows you interest otherwise don't talk to her. The difference between what your friend told you and what I am saying is, your friend told you to focus your game on the girl by ignoring her, I am telling you to focus the game on improving yourself and having fun and not focus the game on the girl simply because she is not worth your time concentrating too much on her. From now on if she shows you interest and talk to you or jokes with you reward her by showing interest too. If she bitches or ignores you punish her and show less interest. If you totally ignore her as your friend said she might end up thinking you don't like her and lose interest for you. If you show her too much interest she might think you're a needy guy just like most of the guys. Now that she started to talk to you reward her a little bit not too much and continue to talk to other girls in class. After she will begin showing more and more interest in you that's when you will make your next move and begin to escalate. Just so you don't get confused in a regular game you would escalate from your first chance you can but since this is a school scene things can be quiet different. If you do this correctly it will work.

-Joe-

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Thanks for your comment, I now understand more than I did and will act slightly different than I acted before. A few days past since I posted my question, and the girl showed more IOI's, I did reward her with interest too. She also started complimenting me on my athletic abilities. Should I compliment her back on nonphysical features? (pua method). I also wanted to ask you how to escalate in this situation. I know what escalating in a club is, and I know it's much different in this scene. It would really help me to know the answers to these questions!
Joker500

Good. Now that she started complementing you show her more interest but don't over compliment her. Compliment her about things she deserves for example if she makes you laugh tell her how funny she is if she tells you good stories tell her how she is a good story teller. The main thing is to be real about it not a fake because many PUAs just do things as robots and this ultimately hurts them later on. Don't compliment her on her physical looks only maybe after you sleep with her. Now the main thing I have to tell you is not to over think too much. The main cause of failure of PUAs is over thinking don't worry, if you mess up you mess up, last time I checked there were more than just one girl in the world so if you mess up with one girl you'll find plenty more. As far as how to escalate think of it as scale from 1-100 start with light touches and end up in her panties for example tell her in a funny way her biceps are more buffed than Arnold Schwarzenegger and she laugh and touch her biceps while saying it but not in a creepy way. After touching her playfully and building enough comfort with her you should touch her in a way that shows your intent meaning in a sexual way. Many times guys will touch a girl but a girl doesn't perceive it as anything sexual but rather as friendly gestures that's why you have to touch her in a sexual way not to get into friends zone. Sometimes it can be difficult to do it as I remember with myself. But you have to tell yourself "if I wont do it now I will never do it" and understand this remove yourself from the outcome and you'll have success very soon. Remember the more you try the more you will progress it's just the rule of the world so don't give up and you will see success. Update me on what happened/happens and have fun.

-Joe-

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hey Joe,
Again, thanks a lot for your advise. I understand the first part about the compliments, and "over- thinking",but the second part is irrelevant for my situation. First of all, she is virgin. I also don't want to get in her panties, but get her to be my GF and like me. I forgot to mention that I already DHV to her- but only from athletic abilities. In order to get her to like me, should I start using negs and more DHV? Or should I chat with her on FB and get more into her personal life?

Joker I understand your situation perfectly because I used to be in it too many times. What I mean to get into her pants not just have sex and drop her. I mean to have sex and be bound together by something more than just chating and flirting. I understand you want to play safe game here and have her like you and takes things slow without risk but unfortunately things don't work that way. When you are man enough to risk and escalate and be able to sleep with her than you will get to her heart as a man she wants. Remember if a girl is not willing to have sex with you it's an indicator that she is not comfortable enough with you and therefore not so attached to you. Again to reiterate your goal is not to have sex with her but your goal is to be close enough to her to be ABLE to have sex. If you keep playing safe you will get into the friendzone no matter how many IOIs you get or how good your DHV is.

"In order to get her to like me, should I start using negs and more DHV?" this is not the mindset that will get this girl to like you. Your thinking what you have to do for her to approve you? Are you kidding! Why do you have to convince her to like you? Is she higher value than you! You have to act like an Alpha Male and she will like you without you trying to get her to like you. If you would act like an Alpha male she would be thinking now how she can get you to like her.

You have everything you need to succeed with this girl you have social proof, interest from this girl and shes clearly into you all you have to do is ESCALATE PHYSICALLY that's all. [/quote]

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Joker there are alot of things you can do to get her to like you. one of the things is amazing art has been trying to teach you is kino. which is basically sexually touching her. now you can't just go and start rubbing her legs or anything right off the bat she'll think your a pervert! but you'll never get her to be your girlfriend without touching her.
What i mean by touching her is like poking her arm lightly with your finger or tapping her shoulder to get her attention or just say hi. even play a game (GIRLS LOVE GAMES) with her hands and your hands like thumb wrestling. Touching her like that shows your confident and not a creep. that way she'll relax around you. just go on youtube or google kino and you'll learn more about it.
other things you can do is talk about her life. don't just ask pointless questions all the time. get her to talk about her future or her feelings on a subject.

Now i got a question for you. How old are you? you sound really young to me based on your posts

Hey guys,
I'm 15 almost 16, so thats why I said F- closing with her isn't really relevant, but I'll apply that in the close future. You might think I'm to young for this game, I know I'm not. I have a friend who just turned 15 and improved so much- now he Kiss- closes 10 girls at least, each night theres a party. Now I understand and will apply all the Kino things, but I'll just keep it on a lower level. I think the games and being playful is a great idea. The girl just moved to one of my classes, so now I see her every day instead of every other day.
On one side its great- I actually spend more time with her and can progress in a shorter time, but on the other hand I have less time to come up with new stuff.
Thanks for your advice, I will update you with results as soon as I'll apply these things,
Joker500

i don't think your too young dude. I think 15 is a perfect age to start learning about pick up and social dynamics. I wish i learned this stuff while i was still in high school. I am just wondering about exposure of this society. because if kids are getting into it and it seems like all friends know about it. sounds like this society won't really be so secret anymore.
Anyways yeah keep me posted and if you got a question just ask. Their is alot of material out there on the internet and is not too hard to find. some of it may not be meant for high school situations but alot of it still is.

When you're at school like you, it might be best to train your conversation skills. Ask her things others don't ask. Ask her why or howcome questions. Gets you deeper than thousands of questions that actually mean jack shit.

'Why do you like ... so much?'
'Howcome you don't like to talk about the ... topic?'

Cuts the BS out, goes straight to the heart.
And then kino ofcourse.

best is not to focus only on one.

Hey guys,
I feel that I'm improving a lot thanks to your advise, and if it wasn't for you I would be far behind now.
I have two SUPER IMPORTANT things I wanted to bring up:
1. I feel really stupid for being shy about asking this. Girls hit on me a lot, they ask me things like: "can I punch your abs?" , they say hi and smile, and tell me I'm really fit. My problem is that I always say thanks, agree for the punch, or say hi back. I feel worse than an AFC because I know that from this point I can make them feel atracted or like me easily, or at least escalate somehow- but I don't know how to and what to say. I really need help on this!
2. Today was okay with the girl. She started a chat with me on FB and asked about some math HW, and talked to me about teachers she hates. I felt like I was following the advice and getting more into her personal life, but I also feel that I'm reaching the point were I'm on the thin border between being a friend or a boyfriend. I might be wrong, but thats just how it felt to me when she asked me about the math homework. So I wanted to know how can I make sure not to enter the "friend" zone, and how to respond better to girls hitting on me, more like an alpha male, and if there are any good Kino suggestions that would really help.
thanks,
Joker500

The best advice i can give you right now is stop coming off as needy. Your post subject is "2 Major urgent questions" then you write "SUPER IMPORTANT" and even worse you write "I really need help on this." If your being this needy on this site god only knows what your saying to girls. Neediness kills attraction like a bullet to jfk's head.

Hey madman,
thanks for your advice, I took it easy for the last few days, and it worked out pretty good. now I get more IOI's from her, but I don't really know how to respond. I also wanted to ask if I should escalate now, because I'm not sure she feels really comfortable with me yet. So should I use some more DHV's and ESP, or should I start using kino?
thanks a lot anyways,
joker 500

Ask her out, on a date not as friends. This will clear up the friend zone question. From what you have been saying it is almost a guaranteed yes. Kino escalate on the date, have fun, make eye contact, have fun! She is into you so no need to be nervous anymore