Your grip has to be strong and firm, and when your being assertive start for compliance with hand holding and move on w/ my previous advice. And yes it will work just be confident with all your advances.. and what I mean by sides of the body is under her arms, down to they small of the back!
Like I said before be confident w/ every advance like you said females no when your not sure about what your doing with them.


Good way to learn is observationally! The logistic could be different for them than with you.

Adam Lyon's is good on the dancefloor, Ive never heard his methods in more detail outside the ones on youtube. But, when I was looking for ways to improve I ran across his stuff and ironically i found out that he works the floor the same way I do! We are both Unafraid to approach and do the same kino compliance in that order, I just wasnt conscious of it til I read some stuff

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Cheers for the answers Juice! Can't wait until friday to bust out some moves.

Yo Juice, tried your advice on the weekend and did well man...
HB9 giving me massive EC, i dance over, and drop Cajun's line, "U cant look at me like that and not say anything...", then I offer my hand and she ate that shit up! Dancing with her for a while, heavy kino and k-close. Funny thing i sorta got bored and walked off! looking back shoulda extracted her from the df and went from there but still a good effort from me... u gotta crawl before u can walk...
uno your shit man, cheers

That's great man, Glad the advice I gave you was put to some good use nah mean! Yea, you should have extracted her off the dancefloor. if you guys want contact me directly with dancefloor question email me @ trujuicekun42@hotmail.com.

And if its not a problem could a mod please sticky this

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Ok, guys Im still open for business here...

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Hey man,
can u explain the concept of 'kino plow'. I've read thru your posts where u have spoke about it but dont really understand to be honest...

Also, u got any good 'verbal' openers on the df? I know its predominantly a nonverbal thing but the past few weeks i've found it helps break the ice before the heavy kino...

Hey Stems, Hows game going......

Kino Plow is not done with being aggressive... its like taking steps for acceptance... I feel on theyre hands, then sides of the body, etc. Thats the general idea but you want to calibrate to her Feelings. That means seeing the cues yourself, I cant explain them so that you can but here are some common ones...

1) If she exposes her neck to you thats a good sign
2) If she grabs your hand and places it on her hip
3) When she throws her head back onto your shoulder

What I do on the dancefloor is basically tap on the and show them a dance. Verbal openers dont work because its too loud and you look dumb if you have to repeat yourself, everything has to be done with body language and EC.

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hey guys first post here. I have to agree with you on this one. although ive never gotten up to 17. I have been able to make out with 6 girls in the same club in the same night. I think the key is to just let loose and have a great time. If the girls see you as the life of the party or in this case the club then they WILL come to you.

hey juice can you talk about your push-pull routine when dancing?
This is what happens to me when I finally get the balls to start dancing with a girl;
-I start grinding, and then when i feel things are heating up I kind of pull back and just smile at her and act like a friend(i know sounds gay, but i just don't want to come across like a creep) and then i try and get into it again but i feel like the chemistry is lost
-you should post a video man! I'm bloody clueless!

When you pull back and smile, for some reason I think your trying to create a romantic moment, and thats not what a girl wants right now. You probably give off a weird vibe also, which is the reason why you cant up her temperature anymore.

Dont ruin the vibe if you got something good going on the dancefloor, read some of the previous post I made and see if that answers your questions.

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Heyy Juice and others,
i've spent the last about 30 mins reading through this forum topic, and found it very helpful so far, but since it is a forum, ppl are posting questions either about themselves and their issues with the d-floor game, or general questions. Both i think are great, but i was wondering if i could run afew personal questions by u too.
I know this is a similar post to someone i think on the 3rd/4th page, but here goes anyways.

ok so say i'm on the d-floor, and i see a gal i wanna dance with. I've studied parts of Adam Lyons d-floor game and found it helpful, but say i havnt actually made EC with her yet, and i'm going over cold, she doesnt see me approach, what do i do to get her attention and make her turn to face me initially? I'll run a routine by you:

i read somewhere i forgot where, that poking her softly was a good idea,

As she turns around i extend my hand

if she takes it, twirl her

Calibrate teh situation, and then release her hand after having pulled her close, thus meaning that her hand should fall on the back of my neck/shoulder

Take it from there..blah blah blah..

I can do the rest pretty simple with improv and constant calibration and escalation, but its the immediate situation i cant seem to get past.

Was that routine perfectly acceptable? Wouldn't she be reluctant to give me her hand from the outset? and if she does i dunno if she would comply to my releasing of it on my shoulder from the outset as well. This is assuming she is in a group of about 3 or more, as rarely any girls dance by themselves, in my experience at least. Any ideas? comments? confirmation and convincing of some sort that it would work?
lol, i appreciate your help mate.
Thanks in advance,

Fr33stylez

Like I told a guy this morning on MSN, you have to Be a Man and see whats going on there even if you do get rejected thats not the important part! Getting in with a group of girls is still tough but DF game is 90% Body language you have to convey that your just having fun and not after anything until later. Dont ever dance with your target first unless she initiates the contact and even more so.. you dance with her for 30secs and move to her friends.. and work the group. Your routine is fine, but your mindset isnt.. seems like you tense up, and your not being loose before you engage the group. If she doesnt turn to you, put your head between theyre shoulders and open

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That makes sense, so just look relaxed, easy going, and fun to initially open the group, and engage all members of the group paying little attention to target, and then build up to the routine i had posted above yeah?

Yeah, You have to be really inn the group to be able to isolate and plus its PUA educate l

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Juice very good stuff here!

I'm going to the first club ive been to today b/c basshunter is there and should be a blast.

I'm going to use your butt bump, tap, and twirl stuff to get attraction going and then move onto grinding such and such, and kiss close if I capture the moment.

However, if no kiss closes develope its all good, im there to have fun, and everyone there will know it. No pressure and I won't let anything get me down.

Thanks Juice!