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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:08 am 
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A 10 isn't attracted to a balding, fat and short 5 with a lot of money purely for his money. His personality counts here

There is a good chance (barring winning the lottery or a trust fund) that he worked his balls off to get where he was. He was determined, he was a leader etc etc. If every guy was like that, then we would all be rich. He is different to the other guys. His personality is one of a man who knows how to succeed. He likely has a decent social intelligence, and general intelligence. That is why she is attracted to him.

I grant you that if you are incredibly handsome, you will have an easier time opening girls...but thats it. Only at opening do looks grant you an advantage.

It works the other way as well. There was a girl on my university course. A couple of my friends used to drool over how hot she was. I was pretty indifferent to her looks, not thinking they were anything special. Then we sat next to each other in class one day, started talking, and all of a sudden, I was really attracted to her, for who she was.

Likewise, you can have a really beautiful girl, but when you start talking to her, you completely despise her personality (someone like Kim Kardashian). Now guys can probably fake/deal with not being attracted to her personality for longer than a girl could, especially if he feels this is the best its ever going to get, but the point still stands.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:00 pm 
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I understood her points really. It doesn't mean I agree though. The truth behind this whole PUA community, as i see it, is more to give shy guys some confidence and pesonality. More importantly, to give them the motivation to keep working on themselves for the better.

P.S - Im gonna pull your leg just a bit here Flamingo, Eastern Europeans (im also from Europe) are quite famous for dating rich and fat guys. :P is it a National sport? joking of course.

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 Post subject: Re: Woman's perspective
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That has to be the biggest crock of fucking shit I have ever read. If you seriously think you can put a hot woman in a room with an ugly fat guy with a beer belly and show porn movies and really believe she'll get all wet and horny, you are seriously fucking deluded man.
A female researcher put devices inside women's pussies to measure if they get wet while watching porn. While most women said they're turned off or disgusted with the porn show, their pussies went dripping wet.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKeRBLYWGOs[/youtube]

Stop treating women like they're inanimate objects or asexual earthworms. They're human too with desires and they get aroused.
They may be wet through looking at porn but they 'ain't gonna jump on some fucking, fat, ugly dude with a beer belly sitting in the room. That's a fat, ugly dude with a beer belly's fantasy. Women have higher standards. Men will fuck anything is my point you dumb cunt.


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digital u just contradicted yourself you loose again


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Why are you so hostile? You have hundreds of posts on a site you have a moral standing against? Thank you for the stat boosts but we could probably do without your flaming.

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Digital Spy is still at it, huh? That is some dedication to hate. And Purple Flamingo, I really appreciate your OP. Some of these guys have some valid points in their responses, also, but youre right, you cant know if you dont ask.


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They may be wet through looking at porn but they 'ain't gonna jump on some fucking, fat, ugly dude with a beer belly sitting in the room. That's a fat, ugly dude with a beer belly's fantasy. Women have higher standards. Men will fuck anything is my point you dumb cunt.
Nah. A woman's clitoris has +8,000 nerve endings while a man's entire penis only has +4,000 nerve endings. So technically, a fat, ugly dude who can sexually escalate properly on the hot woman will be banging her in no time.

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Wow! So many posts since the last time I logged in. I don't know where to start....


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 Post subject: Re: Woman's perspective
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:14 am 
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No, I'm not trying to troll. I'm sorry if you don't like what I say. Would you rather see me lying and saying what you want to hear instead of what it really is?
You say you see 10's with 8's. Ok. That's normal. Do you see 10's with 5's unless they have money?
See attractive people (regardless of gender) have a wide range of partners to choose from. Why would a good looking girl/guy go after a person who is not so good looking themselves? Think about it:
Scenario 1: You have a woman who is smoking hot and wants to date you.
Scenario 2: you have a fat ugly chick who loves video games and is fun to talk to and you have a bunch in common.

Which one do you choose?

Yeah, the same for women. We don't feel attraction based on your spectacular personality. We feel attracted based on your looks as well. If you look like Donald Trupm the only thing that can get you laid is money.

Beautiful girls date handsome guys, handsome guys date beautiful girls. It will never change no matter what pick-up line you have.

If you know so many ugly/old/broke guys dating 10's why don't you ask them for advice? Or just watch their techniques? It's really interesting cause I've met a lot of people and I don't know any ugly men who have that great of a game to date gorgeous girls. The idea itself maybe alluring but it is not necessarily true.
i've seen 10's with 5's and lower... and im not shallow i actually fell inlove with a ugly girl who liked video games and stuff, only reason we broke up was because she cheated on me (at that time girls claimed i was very attractive and was a star athlete at my school)

honestly i've picked up alot of beautiful women, back when i was attractive, and now that im ugly and fat...i believe it could be based of looks or such but personality can overshadow looks....u might be right in some aspects but you're very wrong saying it's basically no chance for an unattractive guy to be with a very attractive girl
just because you've seen some 10's with 5's doesn't mean it's a normal occurrence and you don't even know their situation. In reality when you look around you see good looking girls with handsome guys, fat chicks with fat guys, geeky chicks with dorks, etc (maybe 1-2 points off but still pretty close).. Sometimes you see a young girl with an old fart (but let's not get into gold-diggers right now).
And you said you used to pick up a lot of HBs when you were in shape so what does it tell you? Am I really that wrong?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:26 am 
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No, I'm not trying to troll. I'm sorry if you don't like what I say. Would you rather see me lying and saying what you want to hear instead of what it really is?
You say you see 10's with 8's. Ok. That's normal. Do you see 10's with 5's unless they have money?
See attractive people (regardless of gender) have a wide range of partners to choose from. Why would a good looking girl/guy go after a person who is not so good looking themselves? Think about it:
Scenario 1: You have a woman who is smoking hot and wants to date you.
Scenario 2: you have a fat ugly chick who loves video games and is fun to talk to and you have a bunch in common.

Which one do you choose?

Yeah, the same for women. We don't feel attraction based on your spectacular personality. We feel attracted based on your looks as well. If you look like Donald Trupm the only thing that can get you laid is money.

Beautiful girls date handsome guys, handsome guys date beautiful girls. It will never change no matter what pick-up line you have.

If you know so many ugly/old/broke guys dating 10's why don't you ask them for advice? Or just watch their techniques? It's really interesting cause I've met a lot of people and I don't know any ugly men who have that great of a game to date gorgeous girls. The idea itself maybe alluring but it is not necessarily true.
This is a very narrow minded perspective on attraction.

Throw an ugly man out there with a hard cock and game around half a dozen good looking guys with approach anxiety and limp dicks inside a room full of hot women and I'll tell you that ugly man is going to get laid with the hottest woman in there.

Girls still prefer riding a hard cock than rubbing their clits on a wad of cash.

We are talking about real life situations here. Not something hypothetical like what you are suggesting. You say things like "Lock up a hot woman with an ugly fat man and make them watch porn together" and now it's "Put an ugly man with a hard cock and confidence........blah...blah...." What about the reality? Do women get locked up in rooms with ugly men?

And who is gonna see ugly man's hard cock? Try showing it to a woman. Chances are you gonna be considered mentally ill and gonna get cops called on you. What are you talking about?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:43 am 
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One thing that I would like to point out...

The Pick up artist has a huge advantage dating women (no matter his physical appearance), because knows how to properly ask out women and does so often.

In your story the only guys who showed interest were the thugs and older guys. Also you were single the whole time. And I assume a little bored on the days off work. What if a normal, regular looking guy came in asked "How's it going, have any plans for the weekend?" "Oh your from Europe, has anyone shown you around. I'm going to xyz fun event. You want to go with? Are you fun to hang out with?". He would have a high percentage chance of getting a date. Also if the normal or even not so good looking guy comes in with 'fun', high energy and a good time. He'll have a good shot at picking up the girl. (Have you seen Julien and Tyler from RSD? Their appearance and the results they get? jk).

AFC's can increase their pickup percentage success rate by approaching more while conveying interest. "Your cute, want to hang out?" But pick up guys can do even better by knowing how and when to ask out alot of girls properly. And the percentages of success is even higher.

And no where in the story did a Pick up guy come through the coffee line (for months on end) who knew how to ask you out properly and the courage to do so.

So in short if some of the guys posting on this thread had come through the coffee line...you may have ended up marrying the wrong guy :)
Lol! That's what my original post was all about. I said I found a lot of guys attractive but none of them made a move. If a less attractive guy than the one who was my major crush had courage to ask me out I probably would give him a shot. But none did. And I don't think you need to be a major pick up artist to ask a girl on a date. I think American guys underestimate themselves in general.

In the same time when you say "The Pick up artist has a huge advantage dating women (no matter his physical appearance), because knows how to properly ask out women and does so often." I totally disagree. I've never met a person like that. I personally don't date old guys. In the same time I'm the Old Men Magnet. Most of them have money, are smart, have charisma, want to cherish me.... But there is nothing that they can say or do to get me interested. That's just me. Other girls have other "No-can-do's" about guys. I think a PUA is a fantasy for men.


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 Post subject: Re: Woman's perspective
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:07 am 
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I Get what your she's saying, But the fact of the matter is I walk down the streets of NYC EVERYDAY and spot at least One ODD couple (a guy with a girl way out his league.) I've dated girls who have told me I don't know how we ended up together since i'm not your type. Im not and ugly dude but I am short about (5'5). So personality does count, swag or game does count.

What if that dude your were attracted to, was a total nerd? who couldn't entertain you for shit would you still have married him? in that case that would be pretty vain to just marry him for looks right?

We'll probably just have to agree to disagree, but its still good to get a female perspective every now and then.

personality alone won't get you to the finish line, but it'll definitely keep you in the race.
Interesting, I lived in North Jersey for a few years. NYC I love it. You don't ever know what goes on between two people. It can be money, it can be insecurities, it can be fetishes, it can be their situation... If you have so much swag and personality that you date a lot of women out of your league than come on share it with the guys on this forum.

Personally I'm 5'8 and I never dated anyone 6'0'' under. Sure I look for a personality also but I know plenty of guys with great personalities that I would never consider dating


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We are talking about real life situations here. Not something hypothetical like what you are suggesting. You say things like "Lock up a hot woman with an ugly fat man and make them watch porn together" and now it's "Put an ugly man with a hard cock and confidence........blah...blah...." What about the reality? Do women get locked up in rooms with ugly men?

And who is gonna see ugly man's hard cock? Try showing it to a woman. Chances are you gonna be considered mentally ill and gonna get cops called on you. What are you talking about?

Confidence is important but it's not all.
The ugly man with a hard cock starts at 0:19

This is the easiest example from reality that you can get. Call the cops when an ugly man with a hard on in his pants gets near you and have him arrested for having a hard cock.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlmywY_qEM[/youtube]

Here's another picture of that same ugly man who has a hard cock (it's actually a sock that he habitually places in there to simulate an erection). Call the cops now. Quick.

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 Post subject: Re: Woman's perspective
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I Get what your she's saying, But the fact of the matter is I walk down the streets of NYC EVERYDAY and spot at least One ODD couple (a guy with a girl way out his league.) I've dated girls who have told me I don't know how we ended up together since i'm not your type. Im not and ugly dude but I am short about (5'5). So personality does count, swag or game does count.

What if that dude your were attracted to, was a total nerd? who couldn't entertain you for shit would you still have married him? in that case that would be pretty vain to just marry him for looks right?

We'll probably just have to agree to disagree, but its still good to get a female perspective every now and then.

personality alone won't get you to the finish line, but it'll definitely keep you in the race.
Interesting, I lived in North Jersey for a few years. NYC I love it. You don't ever know what goes on between two people. It can be money, it can be insecurities, it can be fetishes, it can be their situation... If you have so much swag and personality that you date a lot of women out of your league than come on share it with the guys on this forum.

Personally I'm 5'8 and I never dated anyone 6'0'' under. Sure I look for a personality also but I know plenty of guys with great personalities that I would never consider dating
Which is obviously your right to be as picky and/or shallow as you want. Not every girl will fall madly in love for the first guy with half the balls to talk to her and keep a conversation. They all physical hangups that you may or may not agree with...not your choice.

Flamingo could have a dope ass personality, and be great to roll to parties with but her left tit might be much bigger than her right. I can't f*ck with that so she would just be winging for me all night.

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 Post subject: Re: Woman's perspective
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i've seen 10's with 5's and lower... and im not shallow i actually fell inlove with a ugly girl who liked video games and stuff, only reason we broke up was because she cheated on me (at that time girls claimed i was very attractive and was a star athlete at my school)

honestly i've picked up alot of beautiful women, back when i was attractive, and now that im ugly and fat...i believe it could be based of looks or such but personality can overshadow looks....u might be right in some aspects but you're very wrong saying it's basically no chance for an unattractive guy to be with a very attractive girl
just because you've seen some 10's with 5's doesn't mean it's a normal occurrence and you don't even know their situation. In reality when you look around you see good looking girls with handsome guys, fat chicks with fat guys, geeky chicks with dorks, etc (maybe 1-2 points off but still pretty close).. Sometimes you see a young girl with an old fart (but let's not get into gold-diggers right now).
And you said you used to pick up a lot of HBs when you were in shape so what does it tell you? Am I really that wrong?[/quote]
sound pretty stuck up to me lmfao...but hey that's how you feel.....also i said i pick up the same amount now as i did back then, just haven't tried as often

and i've seen alot of 10's with 5's...actually i don't see hot girls with hot guys or fats girls with fast guys usually it's a ugly girl with an attractive guy or an very attractive girl with an average guy..or a fat girl with a fit/skinny boy.......maybe it's the area im from, cause the south is pretty backwards....you have a high school frame of mind, that's not an insult...oh and when we say personality we don't mean, (oh we like the same thing i must get her) no i mean a personality that draws people in, that causes her to think you're fun, outgoing, confident, sexy etc....u don't seem like a bitch at all, you actually seem pretty cool, and pretty funny, its just funny how you don't believe an ugly guy could get a gorgeous girl lol

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