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I'm simply offering him the best advice I can give from my experience. I also encouraged him to actually field test the stuff out, so he can see for himself what works and what doesn't.
I would invite you to field test the idea of using an indirect opener about clowns and then attempting to use the theory of cognitive dissonance to essentially logically convince a girl she should kiss you, within 2 minutes, in front of her friends. There are ways of getting a 2-minute k-close, but to my knowledge this is not one of them.
For the record, the advice I've seen you give so far mainly involves telling guys who are having trouble escalating that they might be gay. Rather than attacking me for "being jealous"??? why don't you actually put your effort towards offering your considered opinion, or asking questions, or reading material, or going out and actually gaming women.
As a final point, I used to do a lot of outrageously involved, detailed, and hilarious openers. Having girls standing around you laughing is a great feeling when you're starting out. But, you know what? The opener doesn't actually get you laid, it just gets your foot in the door. As soon as you've got attraction from your target, drop the jokes and the negs, and isolate, qualify, comfort build and get back to your place
well if you dont experiment you wnt know if your gay or not?
Ok, you sound like you really know your stuff!! but why do you speak like talking to girls is a video game. Thats kinda wierd..
How do i know when she is attracted?
Jazz start asking normal questions and speak to someone that isnt through a computer before you think youre better than everybody.
im with Blondguy; It needs to be believable and expect less compliance.
its good that you're trying though, for sure. go out experiment with it but have a few simple, tried and tested openers for back up.
if the girls arent taking it, just tell them your talking shit and needed an excuse to speak to her. itll be something to laugh about
and the 'jil on the couches' is cool and paints a good picture of you in her mind but unless you are with Jil on the couches, its not the best thing to say as she may look over or even want to meet Jil.
try making it more vague like "oh my friend, shes around here somewhere but we keep losing each other", she might even be like "oh yeah me and my friends always lose each other".
on a last note, you dont want to follow this whole thing all the way through, you want to find some 'hook' words that you can make a conversation or parts of it you can talk about.
i.e. "he wanted to borrow my shoes!!",her-"haha what!" "i know girls lend each other shoes as if it was a bank loan". she might contribute to your conversation that way
introduce your name during the high parts as well. Im trying to be constructive not criticise it (if i have im sorry). so in short; make it so she HAS to contribute to the conversation and get some rapport going (the handshake and name exchange is the simplest).
peace and love,
Shah
How is that a dumb question.. I speak to people outside a computer all the time and i am better then everybody.
Thats just how life is...
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