don't listen to him man he's an asshole, its plenty of examples of guys who don't look good that get every girl they want....and you might look better than you think, its all about confidence and don't let him take it away


thing is you gotta realize that girls are humans too and you should not have to worry about being good enough, if anything you gotta make her feels she's not good enough for you

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It's good that you killed your anxiety, you probably are further than me then.
Still I think it would be better if you'd apporeach differently.
What do you do when you're with good friends? Do you have fun? Are you sometimes crazy?
What if you're drunk? Are you crazy and fun then?

Now let's imagine you'd be the funny guy, start with something funny and you created a funny frame which would make the rest of the conversation a lot easier. And if she's a girl who doesn't like fun, I think you'd be better without anyway.

For example: if she's using her smartphone, say like: "Woow, I really love your smartphone, can I have it? ", if she acts surprised you can say: "now now, I am sure I wouldn't be the first one to ask you that question! Am I?"
Or you could say: "It looks like you don't give your smartphone enough love. He isn't shining enough... Look this how you have to do it" you take the smartphone and you start cuddling it. "That is giving love, now you do the same, go ahead !" If she does it, you can say: "I knew you could do it, awesome! You'll get him much healtier now! High five!" Say everything with a smile of course and have some fun and if you're having fun, it doesn't even matter she thinks your weird, in fact you've nothing too lose, cuz you will have fun. (But I think she'd like it)
These are examples I just came upon, I didn't test any of these yet, but I think I will one day
Try not to scare her off either, make sure she knows you're joking around, and after a few minutes you can go more serious (so she doesn't entirely think you're a clown)

It's getting complicated guys.

Opening is important but also the least important.

Your goal is to get away from the opener and get the interaction to a personal level.

All you need to do is break the ice and tell her you have to be somewhere and and that it would be good to get a private drink sometime and then take her number and leave.

It a massive numbers game and you will get a lot of flakes, but you get results aslong as you have the basic fundamentals of not looking like a rapist.

There is some advanced stuff such as projecting a sexual vibe on a non verbal level , but I think the breaking the ice should do a noob some good at 1st and when you get experience then perhaps you can spice Sexual tension up.

All the OP needs to know right now, asking a girl for directions is not going to get you laid unless you look like Brad Pitt.

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Very true. Approaching needs to be broken down into these basic elements first. Then and only then should a guy start TESTING new pieces of material, new approaches, etc.

Many times a guy will have a bunch of routines in his head or be thinking "I have to assume this certain posture or look away at this certain time" when many times all the girl is really looking for is a normal dude with a sexy vibe who she can fuck.

In order to present yourself as this kind of a guy, it is often necessary to first drop many of the thoughts about 'negs, dlvs, dhvs' etc. and just let your game flow naturally. The negs, dlvs, dhvs and other jargon can become a part of your game if you first start with the fundamentals laid out by Pebble in the last post.

I am complicating it because it is extremely complicated. Those HBs are themselves very frustrated: She had a bad day at work, failed her last test at school, her father started to drink, her boyfriend is an asshole (but she is subconsciously attracted to assholes). And you show up, and want her phone number 35 seconds after sayin hello? HM. By that you said, "I want to have sex with you"...Sex...more dangerous for her than to you. She had casual sex, with the wrong guy in November, and allmost got herself pregnant...she is more likely want to be in a fight than give her number publicly to a random guy.
Not to mention, she, she a HB8.5, has to be at the fucking bus stop in the freezing cold because she has no car!

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Shut up you bell sprout.

You are just inventing problems you little cynical fucker. Speak for yourself. You have no experience. That is what I do and I know it works for me.

Your attitude is what's gonna get you laid. Sort your head out. PUA isn't for you right now, take a bubble bath.

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harsh but true.....man i took up for you and you basically proved to me that Digital_Spy was right and i thought this was a random girl on the bus or whatever, it sound like you're lowkey stalking this girl....i have faith that you can pull any girl you want BUT you need to learn the basics first, do the newbie challenge....trust me this isn't only about getting girls it helps yourself out in the long run because it gives you more confidence than you ever had.....but im sorry but right now you're acting like a little bitch and i know you'r better than that...im sorry man

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If I am acting like a bitch, then how is that possible that I have just scored my first HB ever, using the same exact mentality I was describing? So now I have got the results as well...

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A broken watch is correct twice a day

Pics or didn't happen.. (You both have to be in the pic)

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@Webcam38 don't listen to that dick. If you believe him then it's true. I myself was heavily depressed and had social anxiety, I had three years of psychotherapy and not saying that you need that much but psychotherapy can rid you of many insecurities.

what "dick" are you referring to?? if you read the messages i took up for him and he said something stupid that made him look exactly what the guy said he was, i like to see everybody succeed and one part of that is making sure you know whats you're doing wrong
you're getting defensive when im still right, you're making excuse about this and you are wrong, like pebbles said a broken clock is correct twice a day........i promise you its some girls out there that like to be harassed and stalked and its some girls out there that like to be talked down on....but does that mean all girls?? NO!!! but if you read up on PUA you'll learn how to tell what type of girl it is before she even opens her mouth and you;ll develop a confidence to do much more than just get girls

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"My understanding of women only goes as far as the pleasure. When it comes to the pain I'm like any other bloke - I don't want to know."-Alfie

How can you pull a new chick if in your words, ALL women are...

...very frustrated: She had a bad day at work, failed her last test at school, her father started to drink, her boyfriend is an asshole (but she is subconsciously attracted to assholes). And you show up, and want her phone number 35 seconds after sayin hello? HM. By that you said, "I want to have sex with you"...Sex...more dangerous for her than to you. She had casual sex, with the wrong guy in November, and allmost got herself pregnant...she is more likely want to be in a fight than give her number publicly to a random guy.
Not to mention, she, she a HB8.5, has to be at the fucking bus stop in the freezing cold because she has no car!

It's impossible because you said it yourself In your very experienced ways, so you MUST be lying to just to win a cyber argument.

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Yeah, this is a breakthrough. So there are HBs out there more frustrated than me...Not allmost, she did it, did get pregnant in 2009 and -- hates her mother, who resides in a mental institution. I don't know about dad, but she likes to fight, holds a green belt in Teak Won Do. Her lethal-blue eyes melt into a tunel, and behind that wierd things happen. I was not only right but prophetic as well. I am developing all new formula for daygame allready showing signs of a future master.

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@southern_gentlemangq I was referring to Digital_Spy

oh i apologize

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