Hey Val, sorry I pissed you off. I agree we are all here to help each other.

Im still not a fan of that technique but it was cool of you to contribute it, we can be civil and just disagree.

Nice of you to apologize.. if you have any questions about anything.. feel free to ask me.. I give great advice!

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I'm replying only for the ignorant haters. Seriously this site should be used only to help not judge. We're all on this site learning material for a reason. Also if you never tried it and you're calling it dumb it only shows how ignorant you are. Try it then judge it. If you just don't think it's a good idea then just save the negative comments and don't even reply.

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Play the game not the girl

"Here, let me get that for you"

?? Here let me get that for you?

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Ha yea dude this works. I am a fan of ties and I do move it slightly off or tie it retarded on purpose. Great stuff to work with.

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I'm walking on sunshine! ;D

Nice.. did you ever been approached by a HB or has any HB fixed your tie and that ended with a NC, KC or FC??

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So, basically, this technique works, but ONLY if the girl is already attracted to you.

It by no means creates attraction.

I'm not putting your techinique down. I'm clearing things up for those who might use it as a way to avoid approaching and CREATING ATTRACTION(which is what they should be doing).

Even if it my technique creates attraction or not.. opening cannot create attraction. There is a certain amount of attraction that your target has towards you. Your opening is not important.. if she is somehow attracted to you a little bit, she will not give a shit about what you say but how you say it and what do you say after. There is no opener that creates attraction.

"Opening is not a seduction skill it's only a social skill." - 60 Year Challenge

Therefore, yes this is just an opportunity that you give to another women to meet an interesting guy like you. Thinking about opening too much fucks your game up. Just use the 3 sec rule and approach!

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Opening can create attraction. Maybe it can't create enough for you to get a woman in bed instantly , but nevertheless it can still lay the groundwork for getting a woman attracted to you.

I'm not saying that there is a specific "opener" that creates attraction, but the act of opening in itself can help to spark attraction.

I'm saying that your method relies on a woman already being attracted to you before you speak to her... that's fine, but some men don't draw women in like that and should seek to open women instead of waiting to be opened.

LOOL

Wow, this seems risky and a bit more risky but fun. I have read many body language books but never heard of this stuff. I am kind of new, and i must say now i recognize most things i never recognized before like most of IOI's ...but ok...lets give this a try

I like this idea, the theory makes sense. Nice thread

If you tried this, please post the results in here! This should be interesting!!

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This is simply a compliance test for attraction. If you are approach you have to revert power back to yourself and say something Alpha like:

Do you always do that to men you're gonna take home?

WOOOOOW you can't touch the entertainment like that! I'm gonna have to call the bouncer over

etc...

Personally I wear a suit to the whatever bar i go to. This works especially well in dive bars or country bars where it's not the norm. All types of women come and open or intro you. Lots of stares and compliance.

Remember, to Peacock is to go against the status Quo.

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