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What about when there is a group of 4+ girls? You are alone with no wingman. How do you approach the group without appearing creepy. An example some of them are dancing with each other and some are talking to each other but all in close proximity. What do you suggest?
Game the entire group at once, approach in a friendly manner. Introduce yourself to all of them. If they are all paying attention, be charming and witty while you address them all. Try to make them laugh as a group. This is a great way to get one of the girls. By gaming the entire group in a friendly manner. It is basically giving you permission to isolate anyone of them a little later.

I'll often open the group. Do whatever it takes to make them laugh and get a feeling for them as a whole, then I will eject. Then ( a little later) I will re-engage either the friendliest or the most receptive from the initial interaction.

If she happens to be the one out of the group I wanted, then awesome, if she's not, I can always ask her about the one I want. If I established a good comfortable rapport with the group, anyone of them will be open with me and tell me whether or not the one I want is available.

The beauty of this is if you engage the group properly and unassuming. You will often get a group mentality and in general a friendly response from all of them.

Here is some examples of how to address the entire group.

( I'd advise always going into a set indirect, unless you have already made some reads on one girl, or had heavy eye contact with a specific target in the set)

Direct: ( only if you have IOI's from a target already)

a)Hey ladies, I really do have a genuine interest in this girl. ( point to her) Do you mind If I steal her away from you so I can introduce myself.

b)Hi all of you! I gotta say, I really love all of your style, you guys look great. I have to admit though there is one of you that I can't really take my eyes of and I am wondering if I can steal her for a dance?

c)Hey ladies, all of you are great dancers and look amazing. However, I can't help but adore this girl right here. My name is X, whats all your names?

Indirect: ( when you are going in completely cold)

a)Hey ladies, I am new to this club, how is the dj here? ( does he get any better) Them: blah blah.
You: my name is X, what's your names? ( continue with polite small talk, crack a joke or two make them laugh then eject)

b) hey everyone, I have a question for you? What do you guys think of dudes that just walk up and grab girls? I just seen it over there and I find it to be disrespectful. Has this happened to any of you? Them: blah blah.
You: my name is X, what your names. (continue small talk, humor, etc etc)

c) I was talking with a friend of mine, ( if you are alone just point to some random guy) He said that all of you are definitely from out of town, maybe even out of state/country/province, I said, that it seems like you are all big city girls cuz you all have a great fashion sense. So how bout it? Is he right or am I? Introduce yourself, etc etc.

The key here is to not be appearing to be gaming, you can game after you broke into the set and received a general acceptance. Even if you run into resistance and the group brushes you off, you really were only being friendly. So they shouldn't have any reason to be rude, and if they are. FUCK THEM! they're not worth your time anyways.

If it's too loud for them to hear you, don't bother with any of those approaches. You only bet is to do it with your body language, dance up to the group get into their proximity and look for reads and IOI's from one or all, then go from there.
^ sex addict if you do something like this to women dancing on the dancefloor, it will limit your success, remember i am talking from "group of 4 dancing on the dancefloor perspective" I would not open verbally...I would open by dancing...the only time i go verbal is after i open dancing and hit the hook point i would say: happy brirthday to the birthday girl and dance with her seductively, the same if is a bachelor party i would say when is the wedding, get a response, and dance seductively with the bachelorette all the group will cheer and clap and make noises like :"uHHHHHH"

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What about when there is a group of 4+ girls? You are alone with no wingman. How do you approach the group without appearing creepy. An example some of them are dancing with each other and some are talking to each other but all in close proximity. What do you suggest?
Game the entire group at once, approach in a friendly manner. Introduce yourself to all of them. If they are all paying attention, be charming and witty while you address them all. Try to make them laugh as a group. This is a great way to get one of the girls. By gaming the entire group in a friendly manner. It is basically giving you permission to isolate anyone of them a little later.

I'll often open the group. Do whatever it takes to make them laugh and get a feeling for them as a whole, then I will eject. Then ( a little later) I will re-engage either the friendliest or the most receptive from the initial interaction.

If she happens to be the one out of the group I wanted, then awesome, if she's not, I can always ask her about the one I want. If I established a good comfortable rapport with the group, anyone of them will be open with me and tell me whether or not the one I want is available.

The beauty of this is if you engage the group properly and unassuming. You will often get a group mentality and in general a friendly response from all of them.

Here is some examples of how to address the entire group.

( I'd advise always going into a set indirect, unless you have already made some reads on one girl, or had heavy eye contact with a specific target in the set)

Direct: ( only if you have IOI's from a target already)

a)Hey ladies, I really do have a genuine interest in this girl. ( point to her) Do you mind If I steal her away from you so I can introduce myself.

b)Hi all of you! I gotta say, I really love all of your style, you guys look great. I have to admit though there is one of you that I can't really take my eyes of and I am wondering if I can steal her for a dance?

c)Hey ladies, all of you are great dancers and look amazing. However, I can't help but adore this girl right here. My name is X, whats all your names?

Indirect: ( when you are going in completely cold)

a)Hey ladies, I am new to this club, how is the dj here? ( does he get any better) Them: blah blah.
You: my name is X, what's your names? ( continue with polite small talk, crack a joke or two make them laugh then eject)

b) hey everyone, I have a question for you? What do you guys think of dudes that just walk up and grab girls? I just seen it over there and I find it to be disrespectful. Has this happened to any of you? Them: blah blah.
You: my name is X, what your names. (continue small talk, humor, etc etc)

c) I was talking with a friend of mine, ( if you are alone just point to some random guy) He said that all of you are definitely from out of town, maybe even out of state/country/province, I said, that it seems like you are all big city girls cuz you all have a great fashion sense. So how bout it? Is he right or am I? Introduce yourself, etc etc.

The key here is to not be appearing to be gaming, you can game after you broke into the set and received a general acceptance. Even if you run into resistance and the group brushes you off, you really were only being friendly. So they shouldn't have any reason to be rude, and if they are. FUCK THEM! they're not worth your time anyways.

If it's too loud for them to hear you, don't bother with any of those approaches. You only bet is to do it with your body language, dance up to the group get into their proximity and look for reads and IOI's from one or all, then go from there.
^ sex addict if you do something like this to women dancing on the dancefloor, it will limit your success, remember i am talking from "group of 4 dancing on the dancefloor perspective" I would not open verbally...I would open by dancing...the only time i go verbal is after i open dancing and hit the hook point i would say: happy brirthday to the birthday girl and dance with her seductively, the same if is a bachelor party i would say when is the wedding, get a response, and dance seductively with the bachelorette all the group will cheer and clap and make noises like :"uHHHHHH"
I was talking about sets in general. Also if you read my last sentences, I said if it's too loud then use your body language and dance up to them. Everything has to be taken into consideration. Dancing, crowed, too loud etc etc.

Like i said before, i was speaking in general terms. I was addressing the question how to open sets if you are alone.

In all honesty skills, I have open many sets like that on the dance floor as well. It all comes down to availability. I've danced right into sets dancing and opened them verbally, while i was dancing. As long as it's not too loud and crowded, it's fine.

I guess it was a combination of nonverbal and verbal. But then again all game is.

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Never break eye contact, keep it and go up to her and dance from the front, you can go from the back if she knows is you and gave you seductively eye contact, in other words if expected. And yes if a girl is forcing eye contact and you hesitate(when she expect you to open) you could be interpret as lack of confidence translation he thinks i am better than him translation he is not man enough translation he is another beta...
This is good advice for a newbie, but if you are a man of genuine confidence, none of that matters.

I am gonna have to disagree with this one, if you have made solid seductive eye contact, you can break it as long as you had a strong enough conscious effect on your target. Meaning, if you had got into her head, you don't have to approach right then and there. I'll often make strong eye contact, hold it! wait for her to break it then not approach. I'm not worried whether she thinks I am not confident or beta. I already know I am more then confident and alpha.

But Knowing I got into her head, I know the game has begun. I want more cue's from her. I want my target to practically beg ( body language and re-initiated eye contact) for me to come up to her. Sometimes I want them to come to me.

My mind frame is I am a desirable man, she should want to approach me as much as I want to approach her. Sure I might be the one to make the approach, but I want her to want me to approach so bad that it shows, through all her mannerisms, not just eye contact.

The theory behind making strong seductive eye contact then breaking it and not approaching is, you can honestly see the effect you had on her by how she reacts after this. If you catch her continuing to check you out, or gravitate towards you on the dance floor, or anywhere for that matter, you are becoming more in a power position. Women will give off huge approach cue's if you got into their head and they are interested.

Sometimes I will not even approach the woman at all. I've had women come up to me and basically bitch me out for not approaching them. But when that has happened I became 100% in the power position. I made her game me, instead of me gaming her. The best part about it is, women don't have any game. Their shit is weak!

This is just my prospective. I understand the principles behind not breaking eye contact and approaching. But as you progress and become a confident and efficient pick up artist. These simple rules do not apply. Such as the 3 second rule.

So if you are just starting out in this game, then yes don't break eye contact and follow the 3 second rule. If you are a man unbreakable confidence. None of those rules apply to you.

It's one thing to become efficient at approaching and pick up, it's another thing to become the desirable man. If you can do both, no rules apply to you.
^ i agree and have similar experiences with everything you are saying, specially for example if during the eye contact the music sucks(hard rock or obscure techno or just a shitty song), I am just talking in general... But sex addict is totally right, i am talking in assuming the dude is a newbie... Remember i am also basing it from a "Dance Floor" perspective, in other words "women dancing on the dance floor"

Yes I am talking dance floor too, especially if you;re a good dancer. Women will often gravitate closer while they dance. they come into your world and invite you to approach. it's easier for them, they think they are being smart, but to the trained eye they are submitting ( being submissive)

Dude I can't tell you how many times this has happened. You play the eye contact game with girls on the dance floor but keep your ground. They slowly make their way into your proximity, continuing to make eye contact then breaking it as they get closer and closer.

If you stay firm and hold your ground, you gain all the power. You may be the first one speaking or making the approach, but she's done all the work and is now in your reality, rather then you in hers.

I'm sure you know all about this. I just want to give your readers something to look forward to once they become efficient in the beautiful art of seduction.

For the most part, this thread is great, your original post is AWESOME and matches a lot of my experiences.

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Whatever you do you want to be "the best at it" pua is being the best you can be as a man, so who are the best dance floor game naturals "male strippers" my method is reverse engineering of "male strippers" if you are interested in dance floor game, there are some movies i recommned: saturday night fever, dirty dancing,wedding crashers and the true movie of dance floor game "magic mike" go on any youtube comment section of magic mike look how women are going crazy:



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Hey guys i am not a big fan of mm and all of his followers that are mini versions of mystery, however i really like "Sinn", In his style there are many many things that i do naturally and talk about in this post here is sinn...





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hey guys klaus just fucked 3 girls using my text game method, the-skills-secrets-to-text-game-vt13817 ... highlight= join his natural game group on facebook here, natural game will take over:
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hey guys when you go to clubs you want to look good(physically fit), is not needed, but it helps i notice a difference in my game when i lose 10-20 pound, remember
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skills when you open a group of girls dancing on the dancefloor. ar you just dancing lowkey confidently? Or are you adding a little sexuality to it? and can you dance a little sexually with the targets friends to win them over or is that a big no-no?


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4.- Grabbing or touching when opening: When you INITIALLY approach the girl do not grab her hand or touch her, the only exception to this rule is when they play Latin music, or Latin beats for example Shakira, Ricky Martin, Pit Bull, or Reggaeton. After you are in the set and pass the social hook point, you should escalate incrementally a little at a time.
I was in shock when you put this considering you posted this in another thread.
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These guys literally grab any girl in there site and get results

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skills when you open a group of girls dancing on the dancefloor. ar you just dancing lowkey confidently? Or are you adding a little sexuality to it? and can you dance a little sexually with the targets friends to win them over or is that a big no-no?

hey mr. mad, you do not want to dance SEXUAL, you want to dance SENSUAL, and yes it is low key/subtle stuff you do, that will project you as a SEXUAL THREAT, instead of being seen as a PROVIDER, remember never try to impress, i promise i will put some videos on youtube in about a month, i just bought the camara and dowloaded the cd... But anyways, you want to dance with the friends minimally, so they do not get bored, but always keeping in mind your target, you can dance sensual with the friends(but with the fun goal in mind, instead of the AROUSAL goal) with your target(arousal goal), winning the group over is a huge dhv since women have a group mentality...

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4.- Grabbing or touching when opening: When you INITIALLY approach the girl do not grab her hand or touch her, the only exception to this rule is when they play Latin music, or Latin beats for example Shakira, Ricky Martin, Pit Bull, or Reggaeton. After you are in the set and pass the social hook point, you should escalate incrementally a little at a time.
I was in shock when you put this considering you posted this in another thread.
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This is what i consider results:


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlWrFgIR6CU[/youtube]
These guys literally grab any girl in there site and get results



Ok i have explain this numerous times, my mistakes is generalizing, obviously Julien and Tyler( they are in the guru level), they can go to a girl and say "i fucking hate you whore" and pick them up, so can i, but, i am trying to put something simple for general dudes out there...

Let say you are in a small club, you are the dude that stands out do to your game, confidence etc.. You are different "Inmortal", you are a natural, pua, player, that projects vibe, confidence, sexuality... So since you dance with the "Skills method style of dancing" you will have 5-7 girls examining you, so then you go an approach a girl, and maybe accidentally something goes wrong you try to open by dancing and you grab her hand, she jerks it and pull it away, The 5 to 7 girls happen to see the incident(if they happen to see it cause most people are worried about themselves no other people, but women are like a car alarm system they know and sense EVERYTHING), good luck trying opening them, IT WON'T WORK... That is if they happen to see the incident and if it goes wrong, however, i open grabbing a few times, since i know reads(1000s of reference points) that i will open, the 10 mistakes is for regular dudes that do not have that many reference experience like Julien, td, etc... Get it? with that being said, if is latin beats, latin music or there are reads that the girl is waiting to be open, and she give you some weird subtle ioi, and you grab gently the hand when initially open, does work... I hope i clarify this...


By the way phagan went to a hot sit from rsd, he told me they are full of shit...

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"4.- Grabbing or touching when opening: When you INITIALLY approach the girl do not grab her hand or touch her"

What about Tyler Durden's THE CLAW ?
This is the opposite of that logic D:


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"4.- Grabbing or touching when opening: When you INITIALLY approach the girl do not grab her hand or touch her"

What about Tyler Durden's THE CLAW ?
This is the opposite of that logic D:
Too many unknown variables, if the woman has any type of negative association with being touched or grabbed by a male stranger, it will trigger negative thoughts and reactions. A recipe for disaster. If the girl reacts negatively, the entire approach and seduction can be blown before you even get a chance. Even if the girl is into you it can still ruin things quick.

It's best to build some comfort and rapport first.

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"4.- Grabbing or touching when opening: When you INITIALLY approach the girl do not grab her hand or touch her"

What about Tyler Durden's THE CLAW ?
This is the opposite of that logic D:
Too many unknown variables, if the woman has any type of negative association with being touched or grabbed by a male stranger, it will trigger negative thoughts and reactions. A recipe for disaster. If the girl reacts negatively, the entire approach and seduction can be blown before you even get a chance. Even if the girl is into you it can still ruin things quick.

It's best to build some comfort and rapport first.

^ that, there are just better ways than grabbing... Guys who want to try go out and grab and see what happens, then go without grabbing, just see for yourself..

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