Give me an average..

100? 200? 300?

A lot of these problems tend to correct themselves with enough experience. You'll begin to understand how conversations naturally flow after you throw yourself in the midst of enough of them. Surely you don't ask your best friend "resume" questions when you guys hang out? You're comfortable with him so the conversation flows naturally and you guys just laugh and talk about whatever. A lack of being able to have conversations with women usually reflects how uncomfortable one is with then. Something that once again will correct itself after enough experience is had.

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Obviously I don't ask my friend resume questions, but then I know them, so it would be odd for me too ask what they do for a living.

I talk to them about memories we shared, funny stories that we both remember, I ask them questions about mutual friends we have, ask them what they've been up too recently. We talk about our plans and our families etc etc.

I don't know why people always being up the ''how do you talk to your friends'' line. There's a big difference between that and talking too a random person in a club!

If you are able to answer the question, then please do so.
I couldn't bare another 12 page thread where nobody is able to actually answer teh question and just answers teh question with more questions! :[link removed - not sure about the rules]

And not that I think it matter much, but i'd say i'm at around 250 approaches. I mean, maybe you're right and that i'd suddenly start knowing what to say after my 1000th approach, but I'd rather save teh time and just be told - maybe 5 examples of what to say after I open a girl in a bar that I can use that is neither boring or a resume question

The main thing is to get to deep conversation, get to know her deeply quickly. The best way to do this is to find out what she's passionate about and try to find a way to relate to it. For example if she likes barbies it's obvious any man wouldn't be passionate about that so then you ask her why or what got her into that so she says she was close with her grandmother who collected them. BOOM relatbility your tight with your grandma to.

Sasha Daygame has some awesome pointers about conversation and living in the moment I'm going to quote this from one of his books;
"Often, I’ll simply ask a question. “You’re sexy, but I have a question” or “You’re sexy, but I need to know one thing” and then I’ll ask her. Sometimes I’ll make a statement or guess something about her. “You’re beautiful and… you’ve got a great energy. You’re a yoga teacher, right?” It makes sense if the question or statement relates to your opener, but it doesn’t have to. Try “Hey, you have an amazing walk…Are you an actress?” or “You’ve got an amazing smile…Are you a really happy person?” and see how they work. If you’re really curious about women though, you really could ask whatever is on your mind. Anything from “Do you like charming white guys?” to “Do you want to be my girlfriend?” There are absolutely no limitations. It’s just important to know that you have to say something after your opener. Otherwise you’re going to just stand there looking like an idiot. A quick cheat is just to use “But I have a question…” This buys you a few seconds to some up with something in the moment. For example: “Excuse me miss, you look amazing!! But I have a question…do you always dress us this fancy to go to the laundromat, or did someone tell you it was my birthday?” “Wow, you have GREAT posture, but I was wondering…are you an actor? “Excuse me, you have an AMAZING energy. Are you a yoga teacher? *You must have a lot of fun in the bedroom! (*advanced players only) In a grocery store: “Excuse me, don’t take this the wrong way – but you are THE most beautiful woman I’ve ever seen in a grocery store. But I have a question… I thought a woman of your beauty would just boss her boyfriend around and make him cook dinner. What’s up with that?” In a mall: “Excuse me, your style is AMAZING! But I have a question…are you a professional fashionista or, you just dress up to the attention from all the cute guys in the shopping mall?” You dig? It’s that easy. Just find something that strikes you, put it out there, and setup a question right after."

This thread may help you out.
general-questions/debunking-myth-open-e ... 94631.html

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In that thread, you state ''f you were to ask those questions to anyone, you would need significant build up to get some kind of emotional charge before even asking. Make her care about the question before asking the question.''

That's true. It's what i've been trying to explain to people when they say to me ''After teh open, insterad of asking a boring question, ask them about their hobbies or something they're interested in'', but as you say, without some sort of buildup, it comes across really awkward

''Hi! I saw you, thought you looked cute''

''Oh. thanks''

''So......what do you do for fun/hobbies?

''Errrr.....''

It just comes across a bit weird.

I think there should be a basic recipe for different situations.

I tried daygame for teh first time ever yesterday and I found it even harder than nightgame in bars! I had NO IDEA what to say after opening, lol. I tihnk I maye have chosen my targets badly, though. I mean, most of them were very young girls stacking shelves in a supermarket. (how would you open them girls and how would you follow up out of interest?)

In bars, After I open, I tend to ask them how their night is going, what they are drinking, who they are with etc. I think they are boring questions, but I can never think of anything else too ask. At at least it's *something*, whereas yesterday with day game, I honestly coudn't think of anything at all on some approaches. People say to use the environment and what she's doing, but i'm sure no girl wants to talk about how she's stacking shelves! (when I used to stack shelves I didn't even want to be seen by anyone, nevermind talk about my job!)

The question is unrelated to the statement. What does her being cute have to do with she does for fun or hobbies? That kind of makes things awkward. If you're going to open up with cute, you should follow up with something related or the better option of introducing yourself which in turns gets you her name. Then if you want to move to fun/hobbies, you can do it then because it's more natural.

Daygame is definitely different from night. One of the most reliable topics is what you're doing, which leads to why you're doing it. Since you're sharing that information, she will normally feel obligated to give you the same information in return. From there, you can transition into asking questions based on what she's doing.

If you're talking about girls that are working, I'm not a fan of approaching them. Other guys are fine with it, but to me it's like talking to a girl in limbo. She has to be polite while she may not be interested. I much prefer women that have the option of walking away but choose not to.

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