So well last night I was about with a few mates, going to clubs and bars trying to find the place that was going off the most. We found a great place where the woman were mostly 7 - 10s, and these woman where mostly foreigners in there. And I love a foreigner girls. But anyway I ended up talking to these girls. saying that I loved their accent, where abouts they were from, and how long they had been in new Zealand for. but no matter I did or say these girls just didn't seem interested in what we were talking about.they ended up just kinda turning their backs. so i was like fuck this. My aim in this situation was either to get their number, or have them interested in me and proceed from that.

Well anyway is there a way to approach and open to foreigners or do you just have to define a higher value to them. because now when I think about it, these girls must have guys coming up to them all the time saying the same shit eg. like where from, i love your accent.... if there is right and wrong way let us know.

Well I consider to be pretty nob myself too... But I think seduction is not about being nice, and just saying lots of nice things to them.

Remember that you are trying to seduce them , so you will also have to try to catch their attention, by the way you act, perhaps if you don`t show like are totally in love with them for their accent... it will really help ...

I think there are many different ways of approaching, you can act cold, play hard to get etc. Yet I would say that trying to compliment something different, like for instance, if she is learning English, ....tell her how good she can speak the language ..etc

Also you can read the book The Art of Seduction Robert Greene, which is really good for understanding of how seduction works.

Also like you said , these women are exotic, so they have many guys who just go there and approach them,
I think the key in seduction is try to not fall for their beauty, if you are talking to a girl always act as all women were 1-3 or 4 ... like you need to act as if all women were ugly... if you can do that, women will perceive that you don`t need them, and they will feel attraction towards you .. so try to repress your sexual urges while you seduce, which is an inner work.

Another approach could be stop giving a shit about what they think of you. You can joke be sexual, and show desires but in moderation, so baby steps are the key, you do different things to see how she feels about you, get close to her when the music is loud, talk to her ears, etc, baby steps to her mouth when you see the opening...

Never treat women as especial, you can make her think you are treating her as special, but don`t think a woman is above other women or above other guys just cause she is a bit different... If she says no you will have around 1000000 women more around the corner....

Also many times its not important if she is a 10 or a 7 or a 6... many times 6s have better sex than 10s ... and 10s will give you more bullshit ...so you can play safe...

Hope you luck...

So just refreshing...I am a NOOB...

Opening them just like the 10-20 D Bag's before you won't work very well.

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Hey thanks harunamiya, that was more feedback than I expected also in good detail, so ill really take that onboard. Ive ordered The Art of Seduction Robert Greene the other day so I guess that was good Timing haha.

Doesn't matter who she is, if she's turning her back on you already then it's any one of a hundred things you just did that told her you were nothing special and like all the other guys.

This isn't a question about opening foreign girls, this is a question about opening in general. You used the term "we" so I assume you were with your guy friends and you all swooped in on them like vultures. My style (and this is just my style, not saying it works for everyone) is just never be around other guys. I'm different than them. Better in fact. I work alone. *sound of wind swooshing*

Seriously though, you guys must have painted yourselves as another group of guys hoping to get lucky - with everything from your body language, to your tone of voice, to the things you were saying.

I find it easier to open a group of women ALONE, because, well obviously it takes guts. And they can see that. Also I make sure when I get there I'm having a good time and dancing etc. and people can see that too. I will have random conversations. By the time I walk up to some girls, they've probably already seen me not being like the other losers, and I'm full of positive energy and they can see that too when I approach, even if they haven't seen me.

Hell, I'm at the point where half the time they dance over to me, I don't have to do anything. For that one, practice dancing, a lot. It's worth it. Take classes, do partner dancing - they love it when you dance with them, even if it's jive dancing (what I do) in the middle of a club! They just love that a guy can dance.

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