I simply don't know how to open. That is all there is to it. I'm not necessarily shy, because I can be very mean at times, but in a situation where I'm meeting new women, I never know what to say. I know it's not about asking if the know a magic trick. I should probably just say something about my own life.

I like to think I am a very interesting person.

But as you know, it's not so much what's being said as what's being SUBCOMMUNICATED.

Like in the book "Models," where the guy says "Can I pee on your butt" and goes home with a girl nearly every night.

Also, it is pretty obvious that the only girls that are going to be brought home from bars or clubs are those that are looking for that in the first place. These girls/women have real lives. They may have had a very serious doctors appointment just a few hours ago!!!

One time I was making small talk with a bartender during the day just to find out she has a terminal illness!!!

Not games, my friends. Not games.

They are well within their rights to ignore the fuck out of you or roll their eyes when you make boring small talk with them.

I think it is a very rare girl that would go around fucking every random guy that asked her to as long as he's half-decent looking (maybe I am VERY WRONG ABOUT THAT... and maybe the only reason I don't get any is because I don't ask).

It is also true that many girls/women would get BORED in a relationship even if it's with the most "Excalibur" of men. And if you're talking about marriage (many girls cheat anyway) and kids, that is taking things to another level that is certainly out of the realm of the "games" that are played by people at bars. Some people want that, some don't. But that's not the point of this forum.

I think that the "hottest" of girls (those that are sought after for their beauty = bartenders, waitresses, strippers and the like) are VERY TIRED of being put on a pedestal. If you don't do that, you will succeed.

The best advice I've ever gotten was not on a forum, it was from a guy who walked into a bar and walked out with 3 beautiful girls. He told me, "it's easy - smile, be confident, and introduce yourself")

Plus I always know in the back of my head that I can eat a pussy like a champ (if I want to) and I can dick them down for hours with my Viagra dick. (go ahead and laugh that I use Viagra, I don't care... whatever gives you that extra edge).

Also, I'm about to buy a set of turntables and start DJ'ing down town. As fake as that social status might be, I'll still do it. You only live once.

Also, the thing about "social status" can just be the ability to make conversation with strangers sticks out to me. I should be able to do that and not be a creep. I would probably "get lucky" a lot more if I was NICE. But not TOO NICE (which is the age old question that I don't think there is any real answer to, unless you happen to know it).

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I suck at opening. You know why i suck at opening, because i put too much emphases on what to say.
Slowly but surely i'm learning that all it really takes is a smile and a "hi" to break the ice. Once the ice is broken, go with the flow of a normal convo and take it from there

Yea but doing that to a 10 with a group of friends around her? I see now why Mystery had to be a magician to do this. It was his way in the "set." I really don't know what to do to get in sets with other guys. That leaves me just looking for women out by themselves or just with girlfriends.

Whatever you say, you have to GET TO THE POINT FAST, or else you're going to bore them.

Cold approach threesome game like Dragula (R.I.P.) said might not be a bad idea. Or how about....

"Hey, want to come back to my house for a Viagra party?" Lol.

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Why complicate life by going for the HB who has more cock block obstacles and a higher bitch sheild when you can just walk down the road and find something better?

Because she's hot and I want to put my dick in her mouth.

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