Hey guys, I find it kind of weird to go up to a person I don't know and ask them a sort of more personal question right off the bat. You know the opinion openers where I ask the girl if my friend should be more trustful in his relationship or blah blah blah. I have been trying to open up more with a practical reason and then start conversation from there.

For example I was at a library a couple of days ago to get a book for one of my classes. I saw a cute girl about in the seven range and asked her if she worked there (it was a genuine question I had, it almost looked as if she had a uniform on). From there I said "You know you seem like a person with a good head on your shoulders, i want an opinion from you..." (and i continued with the conversation). I have found this approach much easier... anyone agree? Or is it better to just go straight into that opinion opener...

I can't see why it would be bad to break the ice a little before you go with the opinion opener. However you limit yourself if you think that you need to come up with a practical reason for talking to the person all the time. You can also come up with a practical reason for asking in the rooting of the opener.

I understand why it might seem odd just going up to a girl and ask them what a friend should do to solve a relationship problem. If you think it is odd then come up with a more "lighthearted" opener that is more playful in its content ( the "who lies more" opener could be useful in this case).

I stumbled across the best practical opener (well situation opener at the time) but im not gonna share it until i've field tested it alittle more. Thats why its good to get out and talk to as many girls as possible. Then you will discover these openers and one's that work for you. What works for one man does'nt always for another. The trick is to make it seem natural and not obvious that your trying to chat them up. Especially in bars so you can get past there shield. Anyway i'll let you know how it goes.

i think this is money me and my friends do this all the time just ask them a question you would ask anyone say thanks then body rock away just as shes about to leave use stack an opinion opener

the best one ever for me is when im down at ASU i ask if there are always this many cops around (because im really concerned or i could be for all she knows) then i say becasue im headed to a party and i ask if they think its going to get busted up......Stack what ever you want neg target etc.
This is the easiest way iv found to open girls in my life and if you can have the right fram in your mind it bascially envolves no aproach anxiety because you really want to know if the parties going to get busted up

Also if you tell them one of your girlfriends invited you it can help trigger preselection