the topic title can be very misleading. But it's true, you can steal a girl from her boyfriend, but not in a manipulative way like the topic title sounded.

In reality, you aren't REALLY stealing a girl from her boyfriend, you are just attracting her to you. Remember this, attraction isn't a choice and pickup is mutual, you didn't steal her away from the boyfriend, she just mutally agreed to go with you.

Although it's a reframe, it's not a delusional reframe. it's a truthful reframe. PIckup is mutual and if she decides to go with you instead of the other guy, then it's HER decision. You aren't manipulating her, because pickup is mutual. Not to mention, if you don't "steal" a girl away from her boyfriend/FB/etc, then you are missing out on 90% of the Hot girls you are probably going to meet. Hell, even on night game where more women are single, she probably has a FB/a bunch of guys she's "talking to"/ or a boyfriend in which she doesn't love anymore.

From my experience, 90% of day game sets have boyfriends. and 0% of night game sets have boyfriends. this is also subjective if she's hot. The hotter she is, the higher % of her having a boyfriend.

IF you see a girl at a bar/club, even if she has a boyfriend, she is SINGLE THAT NIGHT. that is why 0%(unless her boyfriend is around with her) of the girls i meet at night have a boyfriend ESPECIALLY IF HE'S NOT AROUND WITH HER.

Tip #1 You must be stealing a girl from her boyfriend hundreds of times

You have to always be "stealing" girls from their boyfriends. MOst people give up on this, and once they find out the woman has a boyfriend, he just gives up or deletes her number. if you really want to succeed on taking a girl away from her boyfriend, you have to be doing this all the time. which means, you have to be willing to have a 25+ woman rotation of stealing her away from her boyfriend. if you see a hot girl at the mall, and says she has a boyfriend, pursue anyway because you are doing this to 50 other girls w/ boyfriends.

Most people think it's Harder than a girl who's single. IMO, it's not any harder or easier. A woman who is single(an attractive one) has like 3-4 guys trying to "talk to her" while a girl with a BF only has1 guy she's with. The only difference is social conditioning, (if a girl cheats, she's considered a slut) while a girl who's single doesn't have this variable. Regardless, a girl who has a boyfriend has less options, while a girl who's single tend to have more options. So it's a double edge sword, it's not any easier or harder. (this is from my 12,000 approaches)

Majority of my 70 lays are from women who had boyfriends/fbs/guy she's talking to/etc. I don't blame her because majority of the women that I sleep with are thin/young hot chicks.

tip #2 You have to screen hard.

Some women with boyfriends(who like your vibe and think you are cool) will put you in her "friend" category and have a platonic relationship with you. And girls with boyfriends tend to classify guys as friends. Do not fall into this trap. This is where screening occurs. If she is giving you a "friendly" or "friend to a friend" vibe. WALK OFF and look for another girl who is more interested.

There have been plenty of times where a girl is genuinely attracted while she has a boyfriend. THESE ARE THE GIRLS YOU SHOULD PURSUE. Not the girls who classify you in the friend zone. from my experience, out of 10 girls who have a boyfriend, 3/10 of them are genuinely interested and is willing to fuck you despite having a boyfriend, while 7/10 of them are "cool" with you but only see you as friends and nothing more b/c of the boyfriend objective on the back of her head.

majority of my 20-30 minute go nowhere sets are from girls who have a boyfriend and only sees you as a platonic friend. Although she's digging your vibe, she can't cheat on her boyfriend so she's more apt to put you in the friend category..... You can easily save time and ejected within the first 5 mins. It is up to your judgement to whether or not she will fuck you. i 've done 12,000 sets, it only takes me 10 seconds to figure out if she will fuck me or not.

tip #3 You have to fuck her as fast as possible AND build comfort after.

And this goes with ANY girl. The best way to test for compliance is to fuck a girl with a boyfriend as fast as possible. If you fuck her as fast as possible; however, if you fail to build a lot of comfort, she might backwards analyze that it was "YOU" who manipulated her to fucking you, so she will get back to her boyfriend. So if you want to keep her, "get to know her" after you fuck her.

Every day 2 I have with a girl who has a boyfriend, I ALWAYS try to take her home the first date, and ALWAYS trying to fuck her. You can't be scared of losing her either, and since you are already have a 20+ woman rotation, she's no big deal.


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This topic can be misleading to some guys. Another objective on what guys make is putting her on a pedestal because you are "competing" against her with another guy. In my opinion, since i'm already talking to 25+ other girls anyway, i am technically not putting her on a pedestal despite her having a boyfriend. I'm not trying to win her over another guy, because I have 25+ OTHER GIRLS i'm already trying to fuck.

Another objective is morals. I wouldn't like it if some guy tried to game my girlfriend either. HOWEVER, i blame the guy for not having SOLID game and SOLID boundaries on his girlfriend, NOT ME who's trying to steal the GF away from him. There are plenty of wiomen out there who have solid boyfriends who have solid boundaries/etc, these are the girls I would normally "walk away' from and game another girl. So although I wouldn't like it if my GF were to be gamed by another guy, it is really "my fault" for not having boundaries/game, it's not really the guys fault. With this in mind. FUCK morals

good luck

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