Hey all,

I start "gaming" again for several weeks now. I have to admit that I don´t talk to chicks as much as I should but when I do the respons is surprisingly not to bad. But of course I get rejected much more than I am successfull. The problem is that I lose my motivation and get frustrated (relatively) fast. I talked to two girls yesturday in a club (far not enough I know). I get a number and an Email and one turns out to be wrong and the phone does not respond. At this point I usually start to quastion pretty much everything about my game and I not really know what to do???

Thank you all and sorry for my English...

Hey mate don't worry.

The start is always quite hard, been there and passed trough it already.
First you have to power trough that part, you will get rejected and rejected and rejected but don't let it dishearten you. Think that with every girl you get close to and manage to have the balls to talk you will be a step closer to having absolute balls of brass and never get scared to just walk up to someone and talk to.

That's why (I guess) Gurus love mass approaches. It's a way to lose that fear and sensibility of rejection.

I highly recommend you taking a part-time job for a small club public relation, a job where you are forced to go up to groups of people (open the set), talk to them with enthusiasm and make them go to the club you are advertising. You have to smile a lot, look confident, you can practice basic kino even. And you will get paid for it. Another positive side of it is that you have a good reason to go and chat with everybody at night so you have a prepared opener (easy bullsh-t like "hay gals, can I stop you for a sec, there is a great club I just HAVE to tell you about!").

After a few months you just don't care, you go up to anybody at anytime. This job had the advantage that I was later recognized a lot of time by the girls inside the club, most of the time they asked to drink a shot with me or invited me for a drink even. If not: "now tell me that my recommendation wasn't good!" is an amazing re-opener when I see them in the club.



After that? Keep on learning PU

TruthApple came from a good angle also, here's my 2 cents.

In the end she is just a stranger that is kindly declining your request for any relations concerning herself and you. And she can, so can you if someone would approach you and you could not be bothered with their presence at that time.

Too bad for her she is missing out on a great opportunity to meet such an awesome guy such as yourself, her loss.

Rejection is a strong word, what I have learned from Vince Kelvin is; She has NO AUTHORITY to reject you.
You might think this is contradicting to what I said first, however, the difference lies in whether you really want to go for it or not.

If she tells you; ''I have a boyfriend.''
Would you let that stop you? Are you going to take it as a rejection?

There are so many women out there, really. Ever been to Vegas? NYC? LA? I see you're from Germany, so maybe Amsterdam would be a better example even...
Go to just these 3 or 4 city's and approach like crazy and I am sure in just the first city you would visit you would get good results.

Go for it...

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Babe Ruth had 714 home runs. He had 8,398 at bats. He closed on 8.5% and is a bad ass. Don't beat yourself up kid just get out there and swing again until you find what works for you.

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Sup muh Dude..

I remember when i first started to play the guitar, with a buddy of mine (Don't even know if you can call it play, that's how bad it was) dude we sucked!! we practiced for weeks and it seemed like we were getting nowhere, no results, no improvement (or atleast that's what i thought). I got disheartened numerous times, my buddy wanted to quit numerous times, but every time i wanted to quit he encouraged me and i did the same with him. It took me personaly about three to four months before I could strung a few good chords together. I'm not a Slash, but i sure know my way around a fret board.
Moral of the story is simple, whenever I wanted to give up, or wanted to throw in the towel I had somebody spurring me on!
So my first suggestion is, MAYBE GET A WING

So now you say, "Fuck it Dusty, I don't want a wing, heck even if I wanted one, the dudes around here hate PUAs. It's me against the world"

No prob bro.
Im sure you've heard this alot, "Rejection Is A Good Thing"
But guess what? it is, because at the of the day Pick Up boils down to two words REFERENCE EXPERIENCE
and the more reference experiences you have the better you'll get at it. That is what seperates the Gurus from the Aspiring PUAs. The Naturals from the Chodes.
So my second suggestion is, go make as many approaches as you can, set yourself short goals like for example : "Today I'm going to hold a conversation with a stranger for more then a minute, I'm going to approach atleast 10 girls, and get 4 numbers. I will not stop until the aim of my objective is reached" Thus you'll step out of your comfort zone on a regular.

Put your results in a journal, after everyday's experiences identify your highs and lows, things you did great and stuff you need to improve.
I gaurantee you'll improve, whilst staying motivated.

Good Luck Muh Dude
D.P

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its a marathon ! not a short sprint.

now I remember my first approach was so sloppy and humiulating. after that I rejected hundreds of time. about year ago. but now I dont drink and go to club approach hottest girls and be rejected like many times, but from year from now. I could be biggest pimp.

its the big picture.

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Excuse my awful English !!!

Here's the thing, what if you were successful every time you opened a set? Would you just be like "Yay, I win!" then retire and never sarge again? No, you'd keep opening sets.

The point I'm making is that you have to keep sarging and keep opening regardless of whether or not you are successful. That's just part of the game.

Also, don't worry about number closing so much. Try to focus on getting as much out of the set as you can while you are still in set. The reason is two fold. First, the most obvious thing is that you want to try to get some play. You want to enjoy the girl, kiss her, feel her up, or whatever. Get something out of her while you are with her. The second reason is that everything you do with her will make her more likely to remember you. She'll have 20 guys come up to her and open her and ask for her number. But if you open her, number close her, then make out with her and finger her, she'll be far more likely to remember you and call you back.

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Hey all,
thank you very much to all of you, that was very helpfully and inspirational! I like the "NO AUTHORITY to reject" and the homerun examples a lot. Yeah I just realized that I am in the very beginning of that whole journey. To deal with an rejection is a bigger leanrning process than I thought!!

Whatever, I keep on trying and work on to be improving!!!

Thanks a lot!!!

Really, the best thing to do is just not to take it serious at all. Just laugh it off or whatever. Don't overthink it, it might ruin your game or even break down your self esteem. Just go on to the next one.