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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:13 pm 
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Am new to the community and thaught of this opener the other day, authough i havnt had the courage test drive it yet. Let me know what you think so i can see if im on the right lines and maybe give me tips on where to improve

"Hey, i was wondrering if i could get a female opinion on something quickly. You see i have this friend who has been with his girlfriend for about a year now but hes kinda got this problem. cause recently hes been wondering if he should really be with her. i mean sure, he loves her and all, i mean you cant be with someone that long and not feel something, but hes not sure he feels that raw attraction to her any more. How do you usually tell if your really attracted to someone, rather than just being comfortable around them?"

also if you guys could post possible things she may respond with, then things you could say back to them

i was thinking this could somehow continue onto what ross jeffries did to the waitress in the game, with anchoring the 'good feelings' she is thinking of. let me know if i am getting ahead of myself :D

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:58 am 
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dude its the standard opinion opener . . . they pretty much have been tested u cant go wrong with it . . . its a little long and i probably couldn't even begin to memorize it but u have nothing to lose to just go try it


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:05 am 
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dont like it, anyone who watches tv will know it's from vh1...


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:06 am 
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Its too long.
May work as a secondary routine after the initial opener to generate convo(provided set is hooked & willing to interact).

I personally stay away from "traditional" opinion openers as an opener. I'd use them as a "secondary" opener after the set has been opened already.
Just something along the lines...


ex/
Full strong frame, smiling.

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"Hey real quick, whats your impression of my buddy's ring?"

HB
Let them get 75% finished w/ their sentence.
Interrupt. (If they say a one word answer, that can usually end the convo)
Id crack a joke.
Me
"See that jewel is made out of real snake eyes..."
"That diamond was pryed open from the hands of a half eaten gorilla"(seriousface)
No laugh... then neg, for her having lack of humor. If she responds w/ anything that isnt "Fuck off" or mace to the face just consider it a shit test and then move to:

(FTC then)
Me
"Pretty cool huh, Yea well the thing is, our mutual friend got it for him when SHE went to _______. Shes was gonna give it to her bf but decided not to, after some outrageous things happen.

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If your frame is good and theyre hooked they will 99% of the time ask:
"What happened?"
IOI

Me
"Well they've been dating for like a year blah blah blah, (include some cheating back story...or something that caused the mutual lady friend to change her mind.)
You may now add more details in this part since they are hooked and interested in the story, included DHV spikes but make sure to be congruent overall. End the story in a better note. Dont end w/ your friend pissed and miserable. It'll be harder to transition.

Some notes
-As openers, I try not to use a long detailed opinion opener.
-Try to be vague and slowly build up into a DHV story
-If you can substitute a character in the story as female do it. Easier for other females to relate.
-Make sure you are aware that the set is hooked before going on.
-Calibration is key if they arent hooking move on to another different type of opener or switch gears to a more natural approach.

Used a similar opener as above. Field tested.
All good.

So maybe it isnt All bad of an opener you just need to re tweak it and present it in a different stage when the set (recommend all female set) is hooked.





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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:07 am 
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try a simple question first...then root it.

what uR doing is rooting before asking the question. And before you root it do a False time constraint coz uR telling a story.


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