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 Post subject: Re: Try This
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:07 am 
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My analysis from an NLP practitioner:

Background:
This is a new experience. The sub-concious mind is afraid of the unknown, because it can't contextualise it by using past experiences (even if you have been approaching with the help of a wing, you've never done it alone, with no safety net).

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Map your future. Visualise the new behaviour. Close your eyes and imagine yourself walking up to these girls and opening them. Imagine it in vivid detail, with all the little nuances. Imagine yourself watching yourself do it. Then imagine yourself doing it. With ease. Imagine a wide range of reactions, and how you react to them. (noticing that none of them actually hurt you) Most importantly you must BELIEVE that this is real, it is GOING to happen.

What you are doing:
Creating a reference point for your sub-concious mind to refer to when you are in the situation. the mind can achieve anything that you have thought, and then subsequently believed to be true, or to be inevitable.

Let me know if this works!
That's actually pretty helpful, thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: VIDEO RESPONSE
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:30 am 
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That's perfect! Thanks a lot for making that personal video response man :)

I'll definitely give this a go when approaching. And as a matter of fact if you read my update I didn't HAVE a outcome just wanted to approach, and I think that actually got the AA out a little bit :)

Now doing direct approaches as a way of 'making their day' or doing it 'for them' sounds like an awesome idea and I'll definitely give it a go and let you know on the outcome!


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I'd never tell a girl she's "beautiful" it just seems disingenuous as it's a generic compliment and she's likely heard it at least 5-6 on any given day.

I think saying "Hi" and asking her opinion on something is best because it engage her to drop her b*tch defense and builds instant rapport. Lots of creepos out there, women want to feel the guy is non-threatening first. The "you're beautiful/cute/whatever" tactic is a red flag for MOST women unless she's average to below average looks wise and isn't used to hearing this.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:19 pm 
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I'd never tell a girl she's "beautiful" it just seems disingenuous as it's a generic compliment and she's likely heard it at least 5-6 on any given day.

I think saying "Hi" and asking her opinion on something is best because it engage her to drop her b*tch defense and builds instant rapport. Lots of creepos out there, women want to feel the guy is non-threatening first. The "you're beautiful/cute/whatever" tactic is a red flag for MOST women unless she's average to below average looks wise and isn't used to hearing this.
I doubt it man. Yesterday I approached a 9/10 HB who was working at a store at the mall. I went direct and told her she looked pretty and had to talk to her. Then after that I asked her if anyone had ever told her that. She laughed and replied with no. Oh and she didn't find me creepy but actually was quite shocked at my confidence when doing this :)

I really don't think a hot chick hears that 5-6 times on any given day, let alone in her lifetime :)

Club game I might assume so yeah, but daygame I don't think so! Why don't you try it yourself? It's really good!

By the way I went Sarging alone today with Magnetic Man's technique that he posted today and it really helped! I approached 3 HBs Direct and about 9 or so indirect!

So thanks a lot for your help guys, I'll keep at this and if I run into any problems I know this community will always help me ;)


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:31 pm 
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I'd never tell a girl she's "beautiful" it just seems disingenuous as it's a generic compliment and she's likely heard it at least 5-6 on any given day.

I think saying "Hi" and asking her opinion on something is best because it engage her to drop her b*tch defense and builds instant rapport. Lots of creepos out there, women want to feel the guy is non-threatening first. The "you're beautiful/cute/whatever" tactic is a red flag for MOST women unless she's average to below average looks wise and isn't used to hearing this.
You are on the right path here, but it's not the words.

It's nt what you say or even how you say it - it's WHY you say it.

This is essentially what matters to a woman.

Thy can smell your truest WHY even better than you probably can.

If your WHY I'd about picking them up, then it doesn't matter what you say - you will be fighting an uphill battle.

Get your WHY right and you can attract women while saying almost anything.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:11 am 
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I'd never tell a girl she's "beautiful" it just seems disingenuous as it's a generic compliment and she's likely heard it at least 5-6 on any given day.

I think saying "Hi" and asking her opinion on something is best because it engage her to drop her b*tch defense and builds instant rapport. Lots of creepos out there, women want to feel the guy is non-threatening first. The "you're beautiful/cute/whatever" tactic is a red flag for MOST women unless she's average to below average looks wise and isn't used to hearing this.
You are on the right path here, but it's not the words.

It's nt what you say or even how you say it - it's WHY you say it.

This is essentially what matters to a woman.

Thy can smell your truest WHY even better than you probably can.

If your WHY I'd about picking them up, then it doesn't matter what you say - you will be fighting an uphill battle.

Get your WHY right and you can attract women while saying almost anything.
Hey magnetic man, just watched your video yet again today and I REALLY want to change my mindset to that.

I understand the gist of it but could you explain again in words what you mean by CREATING something as opposed to getting? Do you mean create attraction by telling them how cute they look and talking to them, making them laugh etc? Or creating in another way?

Just want to understand the whole gist of what you're trying to say about changing my mindset.

Thanks.


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Fuck a wing. Its all distractions, he drinks more, you drink none so hell drag your ass down. Been there done that. Get the skill solo, then go out with a AFC.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:48 pm 
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Hey magnetic man, just watched your video yet again today and I REALLY want to change my mindset to that.

I understand the gist of it but could you explain again in words what you mean by CREATING something as opposed to getting? Do you mean create attraction by telling them how cute they look and talking to them, making them laugh etc? Or creating in another way?

Just want to understand the whole gist of what you're trying to say about changing my mindset.

Thanks.
Dude. I'm on a course all weekend. Will get back to you Monday!

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 Post subject: CREATING ATTRACTION
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:25 pm 
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Hey moltenice!

CREATING attraction is actually pretty similar to causing attraction. You do it mostly the same way. The only thing that is different really is your intention and how you think about it.

For example, one might try to cause attraction by saying a certain phrase or touching her a certain way. If she becomes more attracted, you caused it. If she doesn't, then you didn't. This is one way of thinking about it. This is an "acquisition" approach because it about "control".

In another case, you may say the same phrase or touch her in the same way, but this time you do it because you want to create something with her and for her. Sort of like you were tossing a ball to a child in attempt to get them to catch it and throw it back to you. If she doesn't catch it, you do it again. You are not trying to "control" the situation in this case. This is a "contribution" approach to "creating" attraction.

The truth is, in a attraction you can't control, you can only contribute.

The PUA frame sets up it's own bind by endeavouring to control a woman's attraction. Success is falsely blinding because contributions are confused as causes...but the truth is that control is an illusion. Control is the illusion that your contributions are exclusively causal.

In any case, the point is to start thinking about EVERYTHING you do as only 50% of what causes her attraction. You give half. She gives half. Focus on making your half as forward and attractive as possible and you'll be so much more free from any anxiety around women.

I promise you that this attitude and mindset is that which makes flirting with and seducing every women you meet a relaxed and enjoyable experience. It makes it so easy, that you will be doing it without even realising it.

As an extra piece...you asked "Do you mean create attraction by telling them how cute they look and talking to them, making them laugh etc?"

Well that could work as long as you say it from a place of true desire. If you tell a girl is cute from a place of hoping that she feels complimented and likes you, then you are doing this from a control place. But if you do it because you want her to feel good and beautiful, it will be more from a contribution place. The latter works better.

For some final insight, the reason this works so much better is because an attempt to control is a need motivated strategy. Contribution is a strategy that naturally arises when an individual has no need. Men who don't NEED women are automatically more attractive. Deciding to contribute instead of control has the bonus of also making you feel not needy and this more attractive.

I'll give you a discount on my audio download "How to Get Girls by Giving" if you play with this and write me back again.

http://themagneticman.com/store/how-to- ... by-giving/

Have fun!


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Right MagneticMan,

A weird mixture of your inner frame of mind, Zan Perrion's inner game videos AND the Yad Stop all together managed to make me do a number close last night!

The girl was amazing and hoping to meet her soon!

Thanks a LOT for your support all of you!

I know that even if it doesn't go okay with this girl I know what to do to approach and meet more women during the daytime! Furthermore, I know I have an invaluable resource right here on these forums for motivation AND great help.

Thanks once again to you all and I'll see you soon ;)


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Right MagneticMan,

A weird mixture of your inner frame of mind, Zan Perrion's inner game videos AND the Yad Stop all together managed to make me do a number close last night!

The girl was amazing and hoping to meet her soon!

Thanks a LOT for your support all of you!

I know that even if it doesn't go okay with this girl I know what to do to approach and meet more women during the daytime! Furthermore, I know I have an invaluable resource right here on these forums for motivation AND great help.

Thanks once again to you all and I'll see you soon ;)
You're welome dude! Check out my video blog too!

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