Hey guys!

Long time reader, first time poster.

Finally decided to try to get into the game myself. Stumbled upon the Mystery Method, the reality show, then consequently this forum, been loving learning about this stuff.

Last night was the first time I really went sarging full on. I've always been pretty shy around new women, and decided it was time for a change.

First night out I did a total of 5 approaches. The goal was 3.


Last night, I went with a wing (he's married and just went with me for support) , and we were out on the dance floor. These two women settled in front of us, and kinda kept looking back at us to see if we'd approach. After a few minutes of deciding what to say I decided to open with a neg.

"I just wanted to tell you guys that you're pretty bad dancers"

I THINK it got the desired effect, because they pretended like they were mad, the one kept playfully hitting me in the chest, and both gave me the finger. We then made short chit chat about me being "mean" They stayed around a while longer, asked what I had on the dance floor, but didn't really make the effort to try and dance with me. After about 5 or 6 minutes they went back to the bar to get a drink.

My friend (who doesn't really understand the game much) thought I insulted them. I saw them a few minutes later and told them I was just kidding, which I think DLV'd myself.

Later that night I saw this horrible looking dude with a shitty t-shirt and a trucker hat hit on them and get a number. Not quite sure what I did wrong there.

Is opening with a neg too much?


Any help would be greatly appreciated!

negs can work great if you hold your ground/gain confidence and always have a smile on your when you say it... its all about how you say it no what u say

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Anybody else see any major flaws in my technique from last night?

I agree with maddog... Negs are great openers, good to start convo... but then you gotta push through and start to make them feel comfortable. You dont wanna neg to heavy... just enough to bring them down to your level.
When a girl first meets a guy, they always think there better than them and would not consider them, so what you need to do is give them a negative compliment, which brings them back down to your level, but still shows that you show interest in them…. E.g (' you're really bad dancers... your lucky your cute though..')... im new to this so thats my 2 cents

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You did. When negging is your style than never excuse yourself for doing it. It's really bad.

You don't need to open with a neg man.. if you see a girl that has her eye on you.. you open with a direct opener... say something like: Hey I saw you from a distance and I really liked your style. You can do that because you know the attraction is already there you just have to build it not create it.. and if you're not sure if the girl is attracted to you and you want to open.. dont open with a neg.. why would you do that? open with an indirect opinion or with Hi, looks like the party's over here.. and than neg her.. but in my opinion I would not open with a neg...hope i helped!

I think negs are used best when they are subtle, its sweet for teasing them and making them want to gain your approval, starting strong can be little insulting if you dont say it confidently and witty