Hey. I'm 31 yo and new to the community. I need your help with pulling women. Here's my issue: I am above average in the looks area - an 8 - dress with style and when I'm at the club, women stare and whisper and such. Problem is that when I go over and start talking to them, my convo's usually go something like this:

I approach.
Delacroce: Hey. What's hap'n.
HB: Hi. (with smile)
Delacroce: You enjoying yourself?
HB: A little bit. But it's a lot of young people in here. Feels like high school.
Delacroce: Well, how old are you?
HB: 26
Delacroce: You don't look your age...
HB (quickly): Well, thank you. (still smiling)
Delacroce: You look like you're about 42. (my attempt at funny)
HB: lol. Really?
Delacroce: Just teasing. What's your name?
HB: I'm Rachel. (offering the hand)
Delacroce: Hey. I'm Steve. (we shake hands)
Delacroce: Rachel, it's a little loud in here. Let's go over here so I can hear you better.
Rachel: Maybe later. But, it was nice meeting you.
Delacroce: laugh. Ok, nice meeting you too. (a little irritated at the blowoff and walk away)

My frustration is that if I am being "undressed" with stares and stuff, why am I getting resistance? I know women focus on personality more than looks, and I communicate with pauses, good eye contact, and don't smile too much when I talk to them. I also have to project my voice a little bit due to the loud music.

What am I doing wrong? Can someone break this down for me? It seems like because I'm a different above average looking guy, women expect me to say "above average" stuff or recite poems or something. I hear other dudes (5's) saying the same things with the same delivery but are not getting the blowoff. Do women elevate their expectation of my game due to my looks? In other words, if he's an 8, he should say level 8 stuff. ?? This is a BIG frustration for me that comes up repeatedly!!

I'm not shy but also not extremely outgoing. I'm more of the cool, mysterious, laid back type of guy (think Bruce Willis).

Big thanks to all advice!!

whats up man


Women don't expect you to say stuff according to how high up you rank on the 1-10 scale. My guess is that they just aren't feeling enough attracting yet. Judging by the conversation you posted, all that went on was petty talk.. nothing attention grabbing or interesting. you gotta SPICE IT UP MAN

add some cocky funny humor, little gimmicks and weird stories to increase rapport, but at the same time don't try and seem like YOU'RE the one vying for her attention.

my advice would be also to open up with something more....unique. don;t go for the generic AFC stuff you might have been doing....ask for her opinion on something then go straight to funny story.

Good advice. Thanks dude. I will try this. I think I've been applying a 3 min time limit on something that should take a little longer.