Alright guys i am new to this forum but I have been reading and studying several books about becoming a PUA. I have no problem getting numbers. The problem i have is when i go to call them. Now these numbers are always real. I can tell by her voicemail or sometimes they even have me call them right away so that they can save my number in their phone. However, when i go to call them most of the time all i get is a voicemail. For instance in the last 8 sets i came away with 6 numbers. Of these 6 i was only able to get a hold of two of the girls for a quick conversion (i remembered to keep them quick and tell her that you are busy or something but want to set something up to meet again) but of these two neither have ever called me back or have repsonded to anymore of my calls. So what am i doing wrong. I can get the numbers but not the date. It could be the call. But then what about all the girls that give me their number and I never speak to them? I have talked to several women and most agree that if they give a guy their real number they want them to call. So can anyone help?

yeah man. my phone game sucks balls. Mostly b/c i dont have a licence and i dont drive so i get alot of girls flake out on me over that. only like the hb5's would ever come scoop me up. the hotter ones always flake

I usually text before I call. Just send her a funny message that's really not relevant to anything. If she responds, text back once then wait a few hours and call her.

ok you got the number...at that point she want you to call her by the time you left her she change her mind......you want her waiting for your phone call.....tell her that you out to go see your friends and give her a small neg when you leave..ex(i gave a call later this week if i am not busy) she doesnot want to feel unwanted so in her mind she feels like you might not want her.

I don't understand the second half of this.

This is indeed a good question and I am waiting for the answer too!

wait 3 to 6days ... call once in the evening, dont leave a voicemail

no answer? call back next day around same time (optional leave voicemail)

still no answer? delete number ...

answer or call back? DHV, chat until convo reaches peak and exit ... no longer than 15mins

call back 2days later ... set up date

Ok. I have played around with the phone game for a while and honestly it depends on the girl and how much time you spent with her. For the usual 10-15 minute pick up I will wait a day or two and send a text. If I don't get any reply then I will call the next day and leave a voice mail. After that I am done and leave it be.

I call the second day cause believe it or not some girls can't recieve text, I know who doesn't have text this day and age? Anyway, after the voice message I will not make any more moves and leave the ball in her court.

This has been my usual routine and it has worked very well. Oh and for an anectodal story, just cause she didn't return your call immediately does not mean she is not interested. I used this process and 2 weeks later this girl called me and we have been hanging out since. One more thing to mention, everyone is all about deleting numbers, I ask why?? I keep all my numbers I get in my phone for a couple reasons...

I sometimes recieve random texts from girls and it is always a plus to know who I am talking to and if you keep having to ask "who is this" then eventually she will stop calling you. Another reason is it is a major DHV to girls. I have had girls grab my phone and actually get intimidated by what they see, this is when I usually say they are special and put something different in front of their name. So why would you delete a number if it is not causing you any harm