Openers For HB9+, or just uninterested Women
Do you know any???

HB9+ are opened all the time so any usual opener won`t work. When aproaching SHB, she must not feel like you are tryig to pick her up. You must convey "active disinterest" (thank you Style for the phrase). Talk to her like you would talk to some guy or your female friend. For example, last weekend I was in the club with friends having fun without sarging on my mind and saw SHB on a bar. I aproached the bar, got myself a drink and "acidentally" drop some money on the floor and said out loud "O shit!" . She looked at me and turned her eyes away but I said "Could you be so kind and help me lift the money I accidentaly dropped?" She looked at me saying and doing nothing but she was stunned a bit. I smiled and continued "I hurt my back a bit on training and I would really apreciate if you could help me". She smiled back, picked up he money and asked "What are you training?" I said Muay Thai (which I actually do train for many years) and explained how I am helping my friend for his upcoming fight and I got hurt but its not so bad. It will pass but it would help if I get a massage and since she is such a sweety, willing to help a stranger, maybe she could help me also by massaging me. She smiled again, touching my shoulder and that was it, she was opened with ease and we had a great time that night.

What I did is that I didn`t officially aproach her (i did but her radar didn`t detect it), I didn`t DLV myself buy offering her drink, I DHV myself by mentioning May Thai (alpha) and i was c/f by sugesting a massage. She did not feel threatened because I was not direct and boring and after that, smile and other mentioned stuff did the work.

For SHB`s you must have your traits fixed (body language, clothes, tonality) and you must never show her that you find her beautifull and amazing. Show disinterest and dominance by talking to her totaly realaxed, drop a neg or two, don`t give her much attention. After she realise your frame is even stronger then her, she will start to fight for your attention.

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Natural supreme

Wow that set is awesome, when you drop your money infront of her, but dont you think that asking for a massage 10 seconds in the conversation is a bit overwhelming on her behalf?

It is not when you deliver it with smile. You are conveying humor and selfconfidence in the same time and these are alpha qualities that girls like!

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Natural supreme

nice one marco
i thought dropping somthing and making her pick it up would show up on her radar
does it work in strip clubs except the dancers would probably take the money lol

Really helpful, me and my wing seriously crashed and burned the other day with 2 shb's

Yea, problem is tho, you gotta leave the wing behind for opening a set like this, it obviously doesnt work if you're not alone... at least untill you need the obstacle to be kept busy hehe

I think you probably agree with me when I say that when opening a SHB 2-set the way stated above (which btw i really like, good routine, well done man) you should ask the obstacle for help instead of the target. If she does it the target will probably be more likely to be attracted to you since her friend jumped trough your hoop. Otherwise, if the both of them help, you already kinda established dominance not only with them, but also with spectators, which is very useful even if the set doesnt work out eventually. DHV all the way! I like the potential of this one, i like it very much!

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Alpha - X

Don't hate the player - Hate the game!

I don't think he was requesting a massage as much as being c/f.

nice- i'd try this one... probably without the asking for a massage though

he didnt directly come out and say "can u give me a massage," he did it in a subtle yet DHV way

Nice! I like the coin routine. Got a queston tho: do you then act like your backs hurt for the rest of the night to remain congruent -or how do you get around it?

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“There are no failures - just experiences and your reactions to them.” -Tom Krause

one of the best openers i invented: "So have you met any cute guys in here?" its been field tested numerous times. Its a topic HBs are always interested in.

I like it ...

Wow that coin thing really worked our for you eh, sweet.

I got fully rejected last night... I have a feeling girls are getting more accustomed to better openers and more subtle ways of picking up (PUAs)... at least in Toronto. Seems to be considered the hardest city to pick up in North America. This is shitty

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beautifully done... i will be using that one

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