I'm kind of newb in this so...

when is the right moment to use neg?

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use it in the opener when there giving there answer. if they say somethin u can make a joke of then do it not too harsh. or if they seem to be taking control abit, then just nock them down a peg or 2. negs are fun to hav a laugh jus be careful if they give 3 ioi's then give her an SOI call her sexy say you like her laugh or something.

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what is a PEG ??

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its just a saying mate,

if there getting to high and mighty, tryin to steal your frame, then slip ina neg to just let them know your not a toy they can play with. puts them down abit but in a playfuil way.

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thanks dude, that will be helpfull

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I sometimes use a neg here and there on our second date depending on the girl. Some HB 9/10 will try and hold a stronger frame through the 2nd or 3rd date. don't let that happen. Neg her a few times to stay strong and this will also help seduce her into a full close.

HB singing in a club
PUA "Hey can you sing far far away?" "Some where like over there?" point to the corner.
Great neg and get s a good laugh

I am sure that you have heard enough about DHV's and DLV's. If you haven't these are Demonstrating Higher Value and Demonstrating Lower Value. Negs are almost crucial when dealing with 9's and 10's. They are used to being complimented and looked at by guys, so they don't need ego boosts when you talk to them, so you need to lower their ego by raising yours. You can do this two ways- 1. throw negs at them, careful not to offend (the only person I have seen that can pull of offensive negs is Mystery) or 2. make yourself seem more important than them. You can raise your value and lower theirs by making up stories and combining both 1 and 2- for example- "You look kind of like a model I was talking to last week, but your head/ hair/ mouth/ etc is more round/ square/ prevalent". By saying you were talking to a model, that makes you important and by saying the model was better than them, you lower their value.

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