Many people neglect this part, simply because for the most aprt it comes naturally. But if you're having problems opening, or you feel people could react better to your approaches. Then the specefic point in time when you say "Hey guys" could be a crucial factor in this.

In a simple formulaic format.

Too early when walking up = Looks Needy

Too late = Catches them by surprise


We all know that looking needy destroys your chances of attraction, but "surprise", surely thats a good thing right?

I've found that to be wrong; unless you've mastered the art of comfort, you'll freak her out.

Spur of the moment and spontaneous is good. Scary man jumping out and shouting "BOO!" is not. It raises her BS, and will engage the classic "head down and keep walking routine"; which is ruthlessly employed on many aspiring beginners in seduction.

I find that a distance of 3-5 steps is good for initial "Hi". Although you could probably initiate eye contact from further away.

Angles are important but fairly obvious.

Head on = Confrontational, aggressive.

From straight behind = creepy and lacking of self esteem.

It's best for you too experiment with this one and find a happy medium.

Please note that these are not EXACT rules. E.G. There are many PUA's who can approach from behind and still easily F-close. But they have to adjust their game from normal in order to compensate, and then use the "surprise" to generate a feeling of non neediness and Spontanuity.

Mull it over, experiment with angles and timing, see what you think.

Cheers

yes, a lot will say about the position, usually i think coming from the side is the best way.

It seems to me, first reaction that a PUA should be able to approach from any angle and still win. Could you really imagine a PUA going home alone one night complaining that he messed up on an approach angle?

If you:
1. Disqualify yourself as a potential partner
2. DHV
3. Some kind of neg. Soft or hard

She will have no other option but to be attracted to you. By implementing those 3 things she will automatically feel that you are not like other men and that you stand out.

So after missing out twice yesterday on day-game. I have come to the conclusion that even though I am fine at nights, I need to HELP on the day game.

Yesterday for example:
I am in a department store with a friend of mine just looking for some of the necessities, and out of no-where comes a 9+. She walks towards me and I only notice her as she stops so that we don't bump and then walks in front of me with a big smile ear to ear. AFC - right here. HELP please.

That's assumming she will stop walking and listen to you.

Many aspiring PUA's get destroyed becuase chicks see them and because of the manner in which they walked towards them and when they said hi, they just kept their head down and kept walking.

You wanna chase after her?

"Wait wait, my story is really funny.... ....Hey if you stop running I'll make you laugh"

I'm talking about before you have a chance to tell any DHV's or throw any negs.

It's a small thing many people click it quickly, but some don't, I'm just here to help.

How bout, "Hi you following me? I swear I saw someone just like you 10 minutes ago?"

Or

"Hey just the person.. I need an opinion *insert random opinion opener*"

Something simple, open her like anyone else and then just transist to conversation.