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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:50 am 
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Hey guys, so I have been a member of match.com for over 2 months now. So far, I have had zero luck with even getting a first date. I mean I have had a few winks, 17 photo likes, and 11 who have been marked as being interested in me. I have tried e-mailing 10 different girls that I was both interested in and within 40 miles from where I live. Out of those ten, I could only get one back and forth conversation by e-mail, which unfortunately turned to out to be too impractical for the both of us as she happens to live 36 miles away from where I live and says that she works full time and has an online program which means that it doesn't leave much room for socializing. Also, for the record, I have been trying the dating methods that researched, read up on, and viewed on from dating coaches including Corey Wayne and Kezia Noble. I mean, I have read the online articles, watched a lot of their own youtube videos, and even thoroughly read over and over there own books which are: The Noble Art of Seducing Women and Online dating success for men, which have both been written by Kezia Noble, and How to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne. I know that there is something I need to change in order to make myself more attractive, but I don't know what I need to change. Below is pretty much all of what I put up on my profile:

My headline is: "Nothing"

In the In my own words section I wrote:

Wants: - Honesty and integrity
- understanding and giving to others
- intelligent and sensible
- has healthy lifestyle (Eating, fitness, and
overall health)
- has a good balance between work and
personal life
- Very good at communicating what they
are feeling
- fun to be with and has a great sense
of humor
- My ideal woman is between 5′-0″ and
5′-10″, trim, and in great shape with a
fit body, smiling and gentle eyes.

Do not want: - Excessive drinking, no smoking, and
no drugs

My interests:

Coffee and conversation, Movies/Videos, Museums and art, Playing sports

Sports and Exercises:

I exercise 5 or more times per week
Aerobics, Martial arts, Running, Walking / Hiking, Weights / Machines, Yoga

Pets:

I have a dog; and I like, but don't have a cat, bird, fish, horses.

Political Views: No answer

Sign: I don't believe in Astrology

College: University of California Los Angeles.

Favorite things: Martial arts- I have a black belt in the Korean martial art called Hapkido.

Weightlifting

Studying Anatomy/Physiology as well as Fitness/Nutrition.

For fun: I enjoying learning about subjects and doing activities that help me grow as a person intellectually,
physically, and emotionally. These endeavors include: studying and practicing my martial arts, fitness,
nutrition, yoga, Toastmasters, and reading.

Lifestyle:

About... Me… My Date…

Smoke: No Way No Way, Occasionally, Yes, but trying to quit

Drink: Social Drinker No Preference

Occupation: Other profession No Preference
Miscellaneous jobs and furthering education.

Income: No answer No Preference

Relationship: Never Married No Preference

Have kids: No No Preference

Want kids: Someday No Preference


Background/Values:

About... Me… My Date…

Ethnicity: White / Caucasian No Preference

Faith: Jewish No Preference

Languages: English, French, Hebrew No Preference

Education: Bachelors degree Preferably at least
Some college education


Main Photo

http://pictures.match.com/pictures/85/5 ... 8557W.jpeg

Me and my dog
http://pictures.match.com/pictures/85/5 ... 8557V.jpeg

Pretending were glam at a Christmas party.
http://pictures.match.com/pictures/85/5 ... 8557Z.jpeg

Observing an Ibex in Israel
http://pictures.match.com/pictures/85/5 ... 8557X.jpeg

Me and my Jewish friends in Israel.
http://pictures.match.com/pictures/85/5 ... 8557Y.jpeg


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:27 am 
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Hello?! is there anyone there? would really appreciate any feedback from anyone who has had enough experience with this stuff. I don't know what I am supposed to do.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:26 pm 
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Hey dude,

I read your profile and to be honest it felt like I was reading a résumé.
Something copy and pasted that applies to 99% of online dating profiles.
I usually go cocky-funny on a profile, it works for me.
Put something that stands out from the crowd:

Occupation: fire-engine painter, professional parachute packer.

Interests: sunglasses - jet ski's - hyphens

Pets: I have a dog, I'm training him to ride me into battle.

(remember its not lying, its flirting)

Don't overkill it, but put enough to grab attention.
There are online openers and routines out there to use as well.
Apart from that its just working on your game itself, you'll find plenty of material on this forum for that.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:21 am 
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Hey dude,

I read your profile and to be honest it felt like I was reading a résumé.
Something copy and pasted that applies to 99% of online dating profiles.
I usually go cocky-funny on a profile, it works for me.
Put something that stands out from the crowd:

Occupation: fire-engine painter, professional parachute packer.

Interests: sunglasses - jet ski's - hyphens

Pets: I have a dog, I'm training him to ride me into battle.

(remember its not lying, its flirting)

Don't overkill it, but put enough to grab attention.
There are online openers and routines out there to use as well.
Apart from that its just working on your game itself, you'll find plenty of material on this forum for that.
I see what you're saying, but I am concerned about coming off as that on my profile when that is not the kind of person I am. I mean, I am more of a shy and introverted person. Let's say I was able to get a date with a girl after she liked how "cocky and funny" my profile was. if on the date she realizes that I am actually a shy and introverted person then wouldn't she more than likely think that I was being phony with my profile and that I was trying to be someone that I am not? After all, don't even successful pick up artists say that it doesn't take that long for women to figure out whether or not a guy is a liar or putting on an act?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:31 am 
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Unfortunately chicks don't get wet for shy introverts. Game is about changing that and having you come out of your shell. It's not a mask your wearing, it's changing your lifestyle.
But respect if you want to stick to your guns on it, but you'll be playing a numbers game.
If you shoot so many times into a barrel of fish you're bound to hit one sooner or later.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:50 am 
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Profile is boring and generic. Change it.

I don't like the blue shirt pics, reason being is that it's obvious that got dressed up to take pics for the our pair of online dating. Have more cool pics or travels and groups of friends having fun. I would ditch the pic of you with the girls. Or at least crop the girls off. It just looks like you're trying convey that women like you. Make the pics more organic instead.

I personally think that your profile pic should be a vague one , I would use the pic where you're looking at those animals.

Your messages are the most important, post up your openers. If they look too copy and paste it will hurt reply rate.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:51 am 
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Profile is boring and generic. Change it.

I don't like the blue shirt pics, reason being is that it's obvious that got dressed up to take pics for the soul purpose of online dating. Have more cool pics or travels and groups of friends having fun. I would ditch the pic of you with the girls. Or at least crop the girls off. It just looks like you're trying convey that women like you. Make the pics more organic instead.

I personally think that your profile pic should be a vague one , I would use the pic where you're looking at those animals.

Your messages are the most important, post up your openers. If they look too copy and paste it will hurt reply rate.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:17 pm 
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Profile is boring and generic. Change it.

I don't like the blue shirt pics, reason being is that it's obvious that got dressed up to take pics for the our pair of online dating. Have more cool pics or travels and groups of friends having fun. I would ditch the pic of you with the girls. Or at least crop the girls off. It just looks like you're trying convey that women like you. Make the pics more organic instead.

I personally think that your profile pic should be a vague one , I would use the pic where you're looking at those animals.

Your messages are the most important, post up your openers. If they look too copy and paste it will hurt reply rate.
I am confused. According to Kezia and her team, a lot of women are attracted to the color blue. Also, she and her team say that it's a good idea to have a picture of yourself with girls in order to convey women like you. Even mystery has had tons of pic with girls at parties. Also, what you do mean by organic? Please give an example of what exactly I should do.

Furthermore, why is my profile boring and generic? I don't mean to boast, but people have considered me as being good-looking (I'll post another pic though, with me at about 8-10% bodyfat with developed lean muscle, since I have working out a lot for over several months now). Also, I said that I am black belt in a martial art and that I graduated from UCLA. Also, I thought I was clear in stating what I want in a women. I mean, I would've thought that most men throughout the U.S., or perhaps the world, have never attained such accomplishments and traits like I have. Also, I have worked hard on being a very likeable person. I apologize if I am sounding so full of myself, it's just that I don't get why what I've done throughout much of my life has not been enough to get even a single date from online.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:14 am 
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Perhaps try our suggestions?

What have you got to lose?

The fact is, your pics looks like you have put on a blue shirt (lol) and have pics of girls you that you don't have any chemistry with.

Use pics of you doing martial arts instead talking about it.

I do very well at online game. Kezia probably hasn't met any women from it

Like I said, your messages are very important. You haven't even told us what you send which will be the difference in get replies from women. Post up your transcripts

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I swear, these supposed master puas here think they know everything. http://seductiveintrovert.com/
Not everything is black and white.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:21 am 
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No you're a reasonably good looking guy. There is no reason why online dating can't work for you. Pull out the tips from what people are telling you here. There is a myriad of reasons why girls don't respond.
Because I can't afford to go out, I dropped another 40 bucks on a test Zoosk account: a female overweight soul-sister with 2 kids. There are apparently some real hornballs out there that will stick their shit in anything with 2 legs and a fucking warm hole, because the responses (a ridiculous amount) I got were all the way up to guys that I might consider real competition. I was shocked TBQH. If that crap was any indication, a girl that was in your league would probably get 60x those responses. For whatever reason girls I'm interested in still find me, and if I consider a girl lucky enough for me to go out of my way to message her, I'm usually just my cocky funny self and maybe throw in a little bit of charm. I'm not going to do online (exclusively) for much longer because after a one month of job searching and another full month of onboarding my new job, I'll finally be able to get offline and back to affording real full time game.
I would consider online game one of 2 things: 1. Something on the side you use to get extra. 2. If you're inexperienced, just consider it training grounds for talking to girls in real life. But above all do not let it hurt your self esteem. But for God's sake, don't spend all your fucking time online trying to pick up girls.

My advice - throw in some random cocky funny shit in your profile.

Interests: crackin' skulls daily at work, poppin' caps in whitey, women, whiskey

One of my favorite pranks is taking all the peanuts out of the Chex Mix just to mess with my friend's heads. Can I get a wut wut

Shit like that.


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Another thing you can work to your advantage. There was a study out recently that said that women are more likely to go for average looking men than attractive ones because, attractive males tend to be cheaters and a woman wants someone they can "keep". Or I think more specifically they go for average looks when they're looking to settle down with or some shit like that. Whichever. Use that for your advantage.

It works the same for guys. There are those girls out there that just barely touch "attractive". They might be considered a 6 or 7, but if they're not funky looking: have something on their body that looks good (some tits, some ass) and are healthy and not overweight: they're gold.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:29 pm 
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Well, okay then. I've just added my martial arts pic to my profile. I am trying to switch the current main photo I have with the pic of me looking at the Ibex animals as my replacement main profile photo. So, I have been cropping it and enlarging it to make myself more noticeable in the photo; however, the site won't let me have that as my primary photo (probably because it still not easy enough to see me in the photo). Though, I am afraid that if keep cropping the photo, then I will leave out the animals in the pic.

Also, here are some of the first responses I made toward the girls who have either indicated that they are interested in me or winked at me first or liked a particular photo of mine. For the record though, practically all the messages I sent to all the girls I have communicated have already been automatically erased; therefore, I have typed below what I remembered to the best of my ability as to what exactly word for word what some of my e-mailed conversations with some of the girls were:

This one actually gave me a like for the photo of me with the girls in.

Hey georginabailey,

I have read your profile and it seems like we may have things in common. I also think that you are really cute and would like to get together and meet you out for some coffee. When are you free to meet up?

No response to that.

This one gave me a wink

Hey British_Rose,

I have to be honest with you. I don’t know much about Costa Rica; I think it’s in the Caribbean or Central America or something like that. All I know is that some of my buddies go on week-long safari trips. Which makes me wonder: what does it look like when you fly in at the airport? As the plane is descending, do you see 25,000 people with backpacks filled with heavy gear? Are there 25,000 more people who are to hunt for big game? Inquiring minds want to know.

This one also liked the photo of me with the two girls

I got a response from her saying: The airport is small. Most people are tourists or locals. Lots of pastry Europeans looking for a change of pace and weather. It's a beautiful country.

So then a few days later I responded saying:

Hey British_Rose, it's sounds like a great place to have a vacation and be stress-free from the world's problems.

Well, I have read your dating profile and you seem like you got a really great personality. I think you are really cute and I would like to get together and meet you out for some coffee. When are you free to meet up?

no response to that.

Hey_Kaui_,

I have read your dating profile and you seem like you got a really great personality. I think you are really cute and I would like to get together and meet you out for some coffee. When are you free to meet up?

no response to that.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:30 pm 
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Another thing you can work to your advantage. There was a study out recently that said that women are more likely to go for average looking men than attractive ones because, attractive males tend to be cheaters and a woman wants someone they can "keep". Or I think more specifically they go for average looks when they're looking to settle down with or some shit like that. Whichever. Use that for your advantage.

It works the same for guys. There are those girls out there that just barely touch "attractive". They might be considered a 6 or 7, but if they're not funky looking: have something on their body that looks good (some tits, some ass) and are healthy and not overweight: they're gold.
I kinda see what you're saying, but I don't understand how that can work to my advantage.


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Another thing you can work to your advantage. There was a study out recently that said that women are more likely to go for average looking men than attractive ones because, attractive males tend to be cheaters and a woman wants someone they can "keep". Or I think more specifically they go for average looks when they're looking to settle down with or some shit like that. Whichever. Use that for your advantage.

It works the same for guys. There are those girls out there that just barely touch "attractive". They might be considered a 6 or 7, but if they're not funky looking: have something on their body that looks good (some tits, some ass) and are healthy and not overweight: they're gold.
Doesn't work online bro. Online is all about looks.

Just leave the house and approach. Then you don't have to waste hours sifting through fat dogs.

Online should never be your main source of women. See it as just a bit of an extra top-up when you're bored on the train.


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